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Curtain Wall in ArchiCAD 12 - examples

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:53:17 GMT

Dear Talkers,

Here is a nice example for the creative use of ArchiCAD 12’s Curtain Wall tool from James Bowers of Bermello, Ajamil and Partners, Miami, FL. If you have similar examples, please post it in this thread. We would be happy to feature some of the best on graphisoft.com.

Re: Curtain Wall in ArchiCAD 12 - examples

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:57:08 GMT

Here's another one:

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Shivang Rajvir — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:12:13 GMT

awesome

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Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:46:05 GMT

Wow nice one!
Any tips on how to create something like that?

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Brett Brown — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:28:10 GMT

syber wrote:
Any tips on how to create something like that?

Exactly, nice pictures, but a extensive library of video tutorials on how to use these new tools by Graphisoft to create something like this would be invaluable to us all. Then it is not limited to the expert users only in big firms.

Why Graphisoft haven't done this for all new version enhancements has me bewildered. Surely with Screen Capture programs available today, there is no excuse not to have a Library of videos available to new and existing customers. Look what is on You Tube.

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Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:14:40 GMT

Brett wrote:
syber wrote:
Any tips on how to create something like that?
Exactly, nice pictures, but a extensive library of video tutorials on how to use these new tools by Graphisoft to create something like this would be invaluable to us all. Then it is not limited to the expert users only in big firms.

Why Graphisoft haven't done this for all new version enhancements has me bewildered. Surely with Screen Capture programs available today, there is no excuse not to have a Library of videos available to new and existing customers. Look what is on You Tube.

Hi Brett,

We'll do that for AC12. Swedish only but hopefully an inspiration to others.
The hardest thing is not the tech part of recording but the storyline, voice, flow and so on...it can be quite tough to get it right sometimes...but it's a pure joy when it works.

I would't be surprised if the Virtual Tutor came up for AC12...it's well spent money to get everything into one DVD....same as the Professional Render DVD...I'd rather pay the very few bucks for that rather than wasting time finding it myself...

Mats

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Brett Brown — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:59:40 GMT

Mats, The point being it shouldn't be up to individual resellers to supply tutorial video's. Archicad is Graphisoft's baby, they have the staff and resources to call upon, to get tutorials out to the users.

I am glad you make heaps in commission on sales that you can afford your time to make you own?

I never did get an answer from an European user on how much the upgrade price is from 11 to 12. Is it a secret? Or perhaps you could let me know what the Europeans are paying.

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Anonymous — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:13:25 GMT

I thought I had read that the new curtainwall tool could not do these type of vertical curves. Am I wrong?

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Mats_Knutsson — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:05:16 GMT

Brett wrote:
Mats, The point being it shouldn't be up to individual resellers to supply tutorial video's. Archicad is Graphisoft's baby, they have the staff and resources to call upon, to get tutorials out to the users.

I am glad you make heaps in commission on sales that you can afford your time to make you own?

I never did get an answer from an European user on how much the upgrade price is from 11 to 12. Is it a secret? Or perhaps you could let me know what the Europeans are paying.

Comment 1: Our AC and the suggested workflow is heavily based on local standards and I don't think anyone else could/should do it. We haven't released AC12 yet so there's nothing to see on our web site apart from some hardly structured old tips'n'trix videos: http://www.graphisoft.se/Support/tips_tricks/tips_tricks.html
Maybe the language can amuse you!

Comment 2: We will make the videos in order to make life easier for new and existing users with the positive effect of having very happy users=helps me sell a good architectural tool! It's a win-win situation!

Comment 3: It's different between the many european countries. Subscription is normally much cheaper than occasional upgrades and you don't need to install and use every version.

Making these vids is great fun but it takes some time and thought. It's not Bergman screenplay but keeping the focus and direction is very important as well as having the right voice.

Cheers,
Mats

P.S We're Graphisoft...

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Brett Brown — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:17:58 GMT

Mats, I congratulate you on your effects for your local users.

When I say Graphisoft I meant Headquarters.

Any Tutorial videos should be Headquarters responsiblity with there resources, and you as subsidiarys, can translate them into your language. Easier said than done granted.

Unfortunately I know subsidiarys make a lot of income from live Training and that probably hampers the making of Training videos.

Why so coy about Upgrade costs? Subs here are not a lot cheaper, especially compared to the US. I was told that European counties have an even larger upgrade price than us. Was just trying to confirm this.

Cheers

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Mats_Knutsson — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:42:23 GMT

Brett wrote:
Mats, I congratulate you on your effects for your local users.

When I say Graphisoft I meant Headquarters.

Unfortunately I know subsidiarys make a lot of income from live Training and that probably hampers the making of Training videos.

Why so coy about Upgrade costs? Subs here are not a lot cheaper, especially compared to the US. I was told that European counties have an even larger upgrade price than us. Was just trying to confirm this.

Cheers

Eye No about GS HQ vs subs...😉

live Training + vids is the right way IMHO (engineers being in general muuuch sharper with their tools...toolwise that is...)

I bought a Pansonic LX3 yesterday for 510 euro and I was so happy so I posted on a photoforum and also wrote what I paid for it and the other camera nuts from other countries just thought I was writing the wrong numbers, so big was the difference... I wanted the thing...so...

Back2work!
Cheers,
Mats

Re: Curtain Wall in ArchiCAD 12 - examples

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:14:56 GMT

While I agree ArchiCAD is seriously lacking in video tutorials, especially with new tools such as this curtain wall.

But nothing, and I do mean nothing, can compare to just sitting down infront of your computer and trying things on your own. Good ole trial and error.

James did this project over the course of a 3 day weekend and has limited experience in ArchiCAD, and zero working experience with the curtain wall tool before this.

You will be amazed at what you can do if you just set forth the time to actually try and do it.

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Rakela Raul — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:52:21 GMT

what kind of project is that Rory ?

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Anonymous — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:24:36 GMT

It was just a small house in Mexico that James designed. He decided to use the curtain wall tool (trying to test its limits) to add something to the design.

btw, how are things @ bha?

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Rakela Raul — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:27:41 GMT

thx for responding Rory.

2 Busy, i might steal u back anytime now !!

😉

Re: Curtain Wall in ArchiCAD 12 - examples

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:23:14 GMT

Video tutorial for Curtain Wall is planned and coming - it should be posted on our Interactive Training Guides page in a few weeks time.

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Mats_Knutsson — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:40:58 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
Video tutorial for Curtain Wall is planned and coming - it should be posted on our Interactive Training Guides page in a few weeks time.

Really great news!!!

Sweden Hungary 2-1

😉

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Anonymous — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:19:26 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
Video tutorial for Curtain Wall is planned and coming - it should be posted on our Interactive Training Guides page in a few weeks time.

Nice example above, I didn't know it could do that! Looking forward to the ITG when it comes out, as this tool still baffles me at the moment.

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Anonymous — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:31 GMT

syber wrote:
Wow nice one!
Any tips on how to create something like that?

You'll need to use mulitple curtain walls combined to make the complete package.

1. Use the Curved Geometry Method (Radius and Axis) to create the multiple curved shapes.

2. Use the "Scheme" option to adjust each piece so that the frame ends will align properly with the piece above and below it.

3. Use the "Curtain Wall Free Rotate" option to rotate the individual pieces and meet them stack together as you like them (this can be done in Section and 3D).

4. Drag the pieces to join them frame to frame.

Note, you will most likely need to repeat steps 2&3 to make sure of a seemless fit.

Make any other adjustments you may need.

Re: Curtain Wall in ArchiCAD 12 - examples

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:16:28 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
Video tutorial for Curtain Wall is planned and coming - it should be posted on our Interactive Training Guides page in a few weeks time.

i m looking forwards to it!!!

and then i noticed that some tutorials have the version 12!!! nice!!!