topic Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct in Modeling

Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 14:57:36 GMT

The image on the left is what we get with interior elevations, and the image on the right is what we want. I've put fills and lines on the right image to achieve the correct look - but is there a way that archicad will produce it for me instead?

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:18:43 GMT

if you model the cabinet as a solid thing then when the IE marker 'cuts' through it you'll get what you want?!

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:38:38 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion - but it will then still show the lines around it - including the line at the wall/back of cabinet.

And if I model it as a solid element, the cabinets/drawers won't show up in the int. elevations, and I would still have to do linework.

Maybe archicad just isn't "intuitive" in this particular instance.

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Erich — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:38:01 GMT

Sam,

I had the same issue so I wrote a mask object to handle this.

It is a little cumbersome for the initial setup if there is a lot of cabinetry to mask (favorites can help with the repetitive setup) but the results work well, at least in my work flow. Let me know if you are interested and I will send it to you to try.

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:45:12 GMT

Thanks Erich! I would like to try it out...whats the best way to send it to me?

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:28:24 GMT

is a mask object like a patch?
me not know about dat!

the way i'd mask it is marquee over the affected area (as close as possible to the cabinet inside the room, but overlapping the outer lines), then go document>document extras>create patch. this will create a 2D patch object over the area, which you can edit to remove the linework you don't want... the benefit is that it is editable and reusable anywhere in the file as long as the shape you're trying to patch is the same shape. it does mean however that it does not update with the model... so in that sense it's like what you've done but in an object form...

we use a patch specific layer for these 'patches' (remember, they are object and will have a layer assigned to them) and we save them in the project library folder (they are library parts after all)

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:22:32 GMT

Sam wrote:
The image on the left is what we get with interior elevations, and the image on the right is what we want. I've put fills and lines on the right image to achieve the correct look - but is there a way that archicad will produce it for me instead?

Here is a tip you can try:
Create in the Profile Manager a Profile of the Counter. Assign this Profile to a Beam and place a Beam there.
Then use SEO to subtract the Beam body from the Zone.
Place the Beam on a hidden wireframed layer so it will not get into the view later.
Then in the Interior Elevation Settings Dialog, set the IE to get its height from the Zone and to take SEOs into consideration.
Let us see it that achieves what you are after.

Edit: I tried it in the meantime. It should work.

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:29:15 GMT

laszlonagy - Genius! I think that will do just what I need! I frequently forget the usefulness of the profiler. Thanks for the tip and I'll let you know if I have any further issues.

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Erika Epstein — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:30:31 GMT

Laszlo,
This is a long outstanding problem with archicad cabinets;Every single user of archicad has to do some kind of a work-around every time sections cut through archicad cabinets.

Can this be put on the list of library parts to be fixed if it is not already there?

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:18:57 GMT

Sam,
Glad you like it. This is what Djordje is always saying: lateral thinking.
It is good practice to know very well what each Tool and feature is capable of and then you can use them very imaginatively for various purposes, not only for things their name implies.
One thing: When I did this SEO between the Beam and the Zone, it gave me some error message when regenerating the Interior Elevation. I just clicked OK and then it displayed it just fine.

Erika,
I will let the guys at GS know about this Cabinet thing.

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Erika Epstein — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:24:16 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Erika,
I will let the guys at GS know about this Cabinet thing.

Thanks!

Re: Interior Elevation Cut Objects are not correct

Erich — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:40:09 GMT

Sam,

Perhaps Laszlo's suggestion fixes things for you. If not I have attached the mask object (AC 11 USA) for you to try. If it works for your needs...great. In addition to masking interior elevations it can also provide a consistent outline for each elevation, space your notes, and ease layout on your sheets depending on how you set things up. There are notes provided in the UI.

I wouldn't mind hearing how others deal with interiors in their work flows. It seems to be a serious week spot in the documentation tool at they currently exist.

BTW you should create a signature with your version of AC,machine specs., etc. It can affect the answers you get.