topic Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15 in Modeling

Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Thu, 25 May 2023 14:51:03 GMT

Hi.

I can not change some attributes of a stair in ArchiCAD 15.

I have a stair which I want to display it in the story above, changed is display setting to "Home & One Story Up" but I don't want its breakline. Gone to "edit stair", and Attributes from "Symbol Settings", 2D Above Home Story and set "Breakline" to off...

But nothing's changed. =/ It's the same for any setting in Attributes pages.

Maybe you may want to watch it from the video I've just uploaded here: http://youtu.be/fKU5dBvJNvM

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:51:34 GMT

Do not use the Edit Stair button to achieve this. Instead, select the Stair and go to the Stair Settings Dialog and change the parameters there. That should work.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:10:16 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Do not use the Edit Stair button to achieve this. Instead, select the Stair and go to the Stair Settings Dialog and change the parameters there. That should work.

That should work, yes but why not using Edit Stair? What is Edit Stair for? This function has no problem in 14 but it's not working in 15. Sorry but this smells like a bug for me.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:19:44 GMT

What happens if you change the symbol type to symbol 7 or 8 out of the menu on the left around the 40second mark of your video?

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Laura Yanoviak — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:46:05 GMT

compu wrote:

That should work, yes but why not using Edit Stair? What is Edit Stair for? This function has no problem in 14 but it's not working in 15. Sorry but this smells like a bug for me.

It's always worked this way to my knowledge. If you change the parameters via Edit Stair, then you'll need to select another stair from the browser area, and then re-select the stair you just edited -- this assigns the stair the default settings (as you just changed via Edit Stair).

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:17 GMT

Yes, I agree with Laura.
Imagine the StairMaker Dialog (where you get when you click Edit Stair) similar to the Library Part Editor. Here you create your stair and the parameter values you set are the default parameter values.
If you now place a Stair it will use those values.
However, if you select an already placed Stair and go to its Settings Dialog you can modify the parameter values for that selected instance.
If you go again to the StairMaker Dialog (with Edit Stair command) you will be again modifying the default parameter values of a certain Stair type, not the parameter values of the selected instance.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:58:29 GMT

Laura wrote:
It's always worked this way to my knowledge. If you change the parameters via Edit Stair, then you'll need to select another stair from the browser area, and then re-select the stair you just edited -- this assigns the stair the default settings (as you just changed via Edit Stair).

Something changed/wrong in 15 I mean, I was happy with 14 about this Edit Stair stuff.

In AC15:
Select the stair you created previously with Stair tool on floor plan.
Click on Edit Stair from Info Box.
In Geometry Settings, change something. (For example, flight with)
Then click Ok.
You'll see that your stair is updated. So, now we know that Edit Stair button on Info Box works to change the parameters of selected stair, right?

Now select your stair and go Edit Stair again from Inbo Box (not from Stair Selection Settings!),
Go to Symbol Settings and change any walking line symbol.
Click OK and see the results.
Nothing will be changed!

If you please do these steps in 14, you'll have no problem with any changes you make from Edit Stair from Info Box.

15 has problem with this button to update attributes of the stairs.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:04:05 GMT

zeropointreference wrote:
What happens if you change the symbol type to symbol 7 or 8 out of the menu on the left around the 40second mark of your video?

Nothing happened. Changing any value in Symbol Settings is NOT effective!

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:14:07 GMT

Yes, the geometry of the stair will change, BUT NOT THE 2D DISPLAY SETTINGS -- it's always been this way, even in AC14.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:33:34 GMT

Laura wrote:
Yes, the geometry of the stair will change, BUT NOT THE 2D DISPLAY SETTINGS -- it's always been this way, even in AC14.

Are you sure? Have ever tried anything on any stair in AC14 right after my post? =/

2D display settings can be changed in 14, but not in 15 anymore.

Would please watch linked video below? Am I doing something wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grV-L6I53PQ

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:45:11 GMT

I also have the same issue, but it also applies to any edit I make to the stair after its initial creation. In AC14 I used to be able edit stair width/ materials etc. and the stair would update, in AC15 this doesn't seem to happen. Each time I want to change the stair, I have to use save as and make a new version.

Has something been altered/ changed in AC15?

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:54:21 GMT

You needn't Save As a new stair:

If you change the parameters via Edit Stair, then you'll need to select another stair from the browser area, and then re-select the stair you just edited -- this assigns the stair the default settings (as you just changed via Edit Stair).

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:18:12 GMT

I agree, on AC14 I didn't, but AC15 for me no longer works that way unless i do a save as to make an edit. Any edit will not take place if I just select ok.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

compu — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:57:07 GMT

simonblencowe wrote:
I agree, on AC14 I didn't, but AC15 for me no longer works that way unless i do a save as to make an edit. Any edit will not take place if I just select ok.

OK button doesn't make any "symbol settings" changes anymore. (geometry settings can be changed, it's ok with that...) "Edit Stair" has changed in 15, this is a bug and sorry, Laura doesn't want to understand what we say about this issue. I wrote to Graphisoft about this and still waiting a response.

Simon, if you want Edit Stair to work, just go to settings of selected stair and click Edit Stair over there, not from Info Box... then you'll see OK button will do every changes you make.

Re: Some stair attributes can not be changed in ArchiCAD 15

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:20:53 GMT

I think I see what Laura is talking about. It seems that any changes; 2D, materials etc. are made in the info/ parameters box but geometry info is changed in the stair maker box. this is definitely different to AC14; i guess it allows you to have a standard stair but dress it up differently as suits if you have more than one in a project?

an enhancement?
cheers