topic Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D in Modeling

Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:27:48 GMT

Hi all,

Is there a way to show the zone category color in 3D? I am aware that the zone "color" in 3D is currently assigned by materials but couldn't see anything about zone category colors. So I ask if it's possible and I may have overlooked something? Before I start creating materials with the same zone category color. I think it's useful to have a way to show the same 2D category color in 3D for the same demonstration purposes. Especially if its recommended that zones be used as a building mass tool.

If this should be added to the wishlist, let me know and I will make one. Although I don't expect this one to be as essential as some others. And if there is a related request already on the wishlist, please show me the way and I will vote!

Thanks.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

owen — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:39 GMT

Nope unfortunately not .. this is one of those stupid ArchiCAD inconsistencies / tools that are not quite finished properly.

Make a wish. It would be good if we could toggle between using the Zone Category color and an assigned Material.

ksymons19 wrote:
.. Especially if its recommended that zones be used as a building mass tool

.. which makes the fact you cannot see them in Sections/Elevations even more stupid

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:02:58 GMT

Has this been fixed yet?

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:38:43 GMT

Okay I just figured out a sort of work around for anyone having the same issue.

You have to go into the tool settings (Zone Selection Settings) and set the model paintbrush drop down to the same color that you used for the 2D version of the zone. (The problem is that the colors that you used for your zones don't exist in the materials palette...)

You have to set up all of these colors in your material palette through Options/Element Attributes/Materials. Select any material and hit duplicate and then rename it. I just created "materials" called Zone 1-9 that are identical to the ones I used for the 2D Zones.

You have to switch back and forth a lot .

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:19:33 GMT

Testing

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:25:32 GMT

The 3D image above is exactly what I wanted, but I wanted a more polished view so I did a photo render projection - but for some reason I lose all of the color settings and I can't figure out how to get them back. Does anyone know how to get the color to come through in the Photo Render projection?

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:38:47 GMT

Eric Bobrow rescued me. Thank you Eric!

If you are using Lightworks to render, you have to go into each of the materials that you created (Options/Element Attributes/Materials) and select each material individually. With "Lightworks Rendering" selected in the drop down, click the "Match with Internal Engine" button at the bottom of the window.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:43:36 GMT

That's exactly what I had to do for showing the zone category in 3D. I duplicated the Glass / Blue Ice material, adjusted the transparency to our liking, and then had it match the colors of a zone category. Yes, 50 zone categories resulted in 50 duplicated materials for our office programming template. At least it starts with a 'Z' so it's always grouped together at the bottom of the listing.

As for showing zones in sections/elevations, I do not think that has been made possible yet. Some people use slabs for this purpose but I think the flexibility and functions of the Zone tool are too good to replace. As a work-around for this, I could recommend you look into using 3D Documents instead of the section/elevation tools. Just place the camera perpendicular to your elevation or section (cut with the marquee tool) and create a 3D document of that view.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Link — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:22:08 GMT

IME that is the best practice to get around this 'limitation'. In our company template I've mapped all materials, zone categories, layers, etc, and assigned them to individual zone favorites.

They look great in colored masterplans and in 3D presentations (our presentation department chose the colors!:wink:).

Plus, they're very intuitive and consistent.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:45:10 GMT

Great tips/solution guys - copied to the Tips/Tricks forum.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:50:15 GMT

Okay now how do I bring all these new things forward if I ever get the gumption to upgrade ArchiCAD?

One of the reasons I stay in the same version is the fear of losing all this work.

Wait - do you just go and find the old project and import it through the attributes tool?

Is this one of those template things that I'm supposed to be doing?

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:05:04 GMT

mc0m wrote:
Okay now how do I bring all these new things forward if I ever get the gumption to upgrade ArchiCAD?

One of the reasons I stay in the same version is the fear of losing all this work.

Wait - do you just go and find the old project and import it through the attributes tool?

You can do this or just open a copy of the file for the new project.

Is this one of those template things that I'm supposed to be doing?

That would be good.

Re: Zone Category Colors in 3D

vfrontiers — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:18:38 GMT

Can we turn this into a WISH...

Make the MATERIAL for any given zone DEFAULTED in the ZONE CATEGORIES creationg box.

For the most part, I want that ONE TO ONE relationship... Every time I place a GARAGE zone, I want it purple....

Of course, there are probably others that will want individual control, thus the idea of default (then you can change it per instance)...

While I'm asking, is there any way to create an ON THE FLY material, just using the PEN COLOR of the 2d zone and perhaps a TRANSPARENCY slider?