topic Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question in Modeling

Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

ares997 — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:52:22 GMT

So I have a site plan where I want to show the roofs. Got that under control using floor plan cut plane operations. Though if I am on the site plan and just go up a story not using the view set or navigator the roofs are still on. I understand this but how else would you show roofs on the site plan and roof plan but nothing else using parametric technology.

Just curious to see if there is another way that people prefer that is part of my new years resolution to reduce my work related production deficiency and stress as it relates to confusion.

Thanks.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Barry Kelly — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:11:53 GMT

Personally I don't use a separate storey for the roof.
I just use a separate layer and turn it on or off when I need it (with layer combinations).

Barry.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:31:55 GMT

Ever since it was introduced (v11? v12? i forget which) i find the 3d document tool to be my preferred method of producing a roof plan - showing an "as is" top view of the model to which i add the required notes and dimensions.

If i want to show roof plan with site information, on the layout page i will usually place a copy of surveyor's drawing (or whatever site plan i am using) and place the 3d document drawing over it in the correct location.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

vfrontiers — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:59:39 GMT

Old School here...

Have you tried placing TWO "drawings" on the layout? One a SITE PLAN and another ROOF FOR SITE? The reason I still like this way is that you can individually mess with the pen sets....

Like Kombibob suggested

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

ares997 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:03:17 GMT

Alright so this is an experiment in the 3d document method. My only concern is the color versus black and white/grey scale. Thus I would have to make some mirror modifications to the 3d document.

What are your thoughts on this iteration.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

vfrontiers — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:10:10 GMT

Not really... set up your MODEL VIEW OPTIONS for the resulting VIEW (in the view map/ navigator) to either DON'T SHOW FILLS or create a PEN SET that has only black and white...

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

vfrontiers — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:12:37 GMT

Also.. who the heck wants to wait the few minutes every time you view this for the MODEL to regenerate? Ask it another way... when will we be able to have a DRAWING version of a 3d document..

Go ahead, stick in a layout... UPDATE...............

I know, you can toggle to MANUAL UPDATE... but still...

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

ares997 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:50:34 GMT

A little work in a different area but it comes out in a interesting rendition. Though the waiting around and potential collapse of the universe because you have some sort of 3d document of of your entire site is a little nerve racking. I wish topo work would come out like it should look on a sheet. I know it is 3d fluff and all but the topo's should really looks like civil drawings. That would be a nice feature. Then you could have almost everything look like a 2d-3d hybrid drawing.

Now that I think about it if you get to a certain orientation with the camera to create the 3d document then there should be a option to make it look like a cool flat document even though it is 3d.

Also floor plans, sections, site plans, elevations, 3d should and are all different ways to look at information thus site plans should be looked at slightly differently than the rest? Maybe.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:51:24 GMT

I have another issue with roofs in Site Plan. I create 5 .MOD because all the buildings have different story heights. When I placed them using the Hotlink Manager all the roofs going crazy moving up and down in order to have the Site Plan.pln story settings.
How can I solve this issue?

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:24:52 GMT

YA.H.VE wrote:
I have another issue with roofs in Site Plan. I create 5 .MOD because all the buildings have different story heights. When I placed them using the Hotlink Manager all the roofs going crazy moving up and down in order to have the Site Plan.pln story settings.
How can I solve this issue?

Assuming you are using a site model as a separate file from the buildings, set the site model to a single story, place the modules on that story and adjust the heights of the modules as needed. This is probably easiest in 3D.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:15:15 GMT

Matthew, you assume right. I follow your instructions but then all the roofs and slabs above the ground floor level are visible. Do I have to copy/paste them from the .MOD? There is anothere way to fix this?

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:16:33 GMT

Sorry, I should say that roofs and slabs are not visible.

Re: Site Plan with Roof's Showing Question

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:45:51 GMT

YA.H.VE wrote:
Sorry, I should say that roofs and slabs are not visible.

It should work to set your floor plan cutplane above all the roofs.