topic Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September! in Modeling

ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Bence Kovacs — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:06:55 GMT

Dear Archi-Talkers,

We are happy to announce on ArchiCAD-Talk that ArchiCAD 9 will be released in September 2004. Shipment will start with the INT, US and GER versions followed by other localized language versions over the coming months. Based on the results of extensive beta testing we are confident that this version will be the most robust version of ArchiCAD ever. Please check www.graphisoft.com for the official press release on ArchiCAD 9! And... enjoy!

Bence Kovacs
Vice President

ArchiCAD Product Management
Graphisoft

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Thomas Holm — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:50:49 GMT

I have just looked through the AC9 demos on AC's web site.

In one word: Impressive!

It's obvious that this time, they've made user experience the first priority. (Dragged copy remains selected, dockable palettes, savable user environments ["profiles"], Lightworks, better PDF integration, etc etc).

Take a look!

Thomas

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:17:06 GMT

Where are the demos? I cannt find them.
A link please?

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:20:08 GMT

Here you go http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac9/newfeatures/

Cheers.
Ben

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:32:03 GMT

I like grinning so i may say that the first impession is that there are very few new features but there is much improved functionality and improvement in usabillity but very very few new features. Just look at the long wish of wishes.

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:20:55 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
I like grinning so i may say that the first impession is that there are very few new features but there is much improved functionality and improvement in usabillity but very very few new features. Just look at the long wish of wishes.

My impression is quite different: there are many new productivity features. Perhaps some are subtle, but they add up to a must-have upgrade IMHO, even without the new LightWorks rendering engine. LightWorks is like icing on the cake! 😉

Yes, many wishes are still not granted, so we may have to wish louder. 😉

Karl

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

MarinRacic — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:55:26 GMT

My first and basic wish would be when are we going to get walls that don't have to be vertical?

As for the rest, IMO, it should've been named 8.5 not 9... BUT, the optimization for OS X is very welcome!

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:02:47 GMT

Karl wrote:

My impression is quite different: there are many new productivity features. Perhaps some are subtle, but they add up to a must-have upgrade IMHO, even without the new LightWorks rendering engine. LightWorks is like icing on the cake! 😉

Yes, many wishes are still not granted, so we may have to wish louder. 😉

Karl

I see your point of view but if you take a look to the wish list and polls here only 1-2 made it here. Most of the new features may help in increased productivity but i cannot expect a new version with mostly productivity improvements.
The only important working feature i see it the text tool. Ok for the docable palletes and the user profiles but if you would have to choose wouldnt you choose the text tool?

I hope the feature list is longer. I was hoping for much more after 2 years

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:39:02 GMT

I think its more, if we put in this wish in here what will happen over there.

We all have our wishes and hopes for the coming versions of ArchiCAD but we can't forget that they have to be implemented into the existing code. What I'm basically trying to say is easier said than done, well in this case easier whished than made true.

I, like Karl, belive that there is enough new content/features to warrant a full version upgrade. Just take a look at the new work environment, coverfills and not to forget the seamless DWG intergration, just to name a few.

My 2cents.
Cheers.
Ben

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:53:11 GMT

If you have a long wish list and less than 1% of those wishes makes it to the next version then sorry but we are heading nowhere. I means that we will cover the wishes in 100 years.. next time the olympics come to athens.
You said about dwg integration..Is that critical? Hardly. The text editor was critical and is a great feature. Hatches on slabs roofs etch is another great one. Saves time. They didnt even change the stairmaker witch is the longer poll in the wish list.

Am i going crazy or you are satisfied with what they give you?

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:25:10 GMT

Depends on who you talk to, about weather DWG intergration is critical or not.

I am very happy with what Graphisoft has given us, content NO, of course some thing, in this case ArchiCAD, can always be better.

Why would Graphisoft fix up stairmaker when we now have Archistair from Cigraph?

It's free too

Cheers.
Ben

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:40:07 GMT

well I just found the first glitch with AC9. The Quick time movie clips will not show, no way no how. Downloaded QT 6.5 (the very latest) Installed QT. Tried three different qt movies on AC9's whats new. No go. Downloaded the QT movies to disk. Still can't make them work. Apple and AC 9 don't like each other allready.

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

MarinRacic — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:41:47 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
If you have a long wish list and less than 1% of those wishes makes it to the next version then sorry but we are heading nowhere. I means that we will cover the wishes in 100 years.. next time the olympics come to athens.
You said about dwg integration..Is that critical? Hardly. The text editor was critical and is a great feature. Hatches on slabs roofs etch is another great one. Saves time. They didnt even change the stairmaker witch is the longer poll in the wish list.

Am i going crazy or you are satisfied with what they give you?

I totally agree with this statement! The number should've been 8.5...
It would've been 8.2 if it weren't for the new dockable palettes and user profiles.

Firm where I work needs free form walls and completely custom columns. Hope 9.1 or 9.2 will solve at least some of the wishlist most-wanted items!

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:04:50 GMT

Ben wrote:
Depends on who you talk to, about weather DWG intergration is critical or not.

I am very happy with what Graphisoft has given us, content NO, of course some thing, in this case ArchiCAD, can always be better.

Why would Graphisoft fix up stairmaker when we now have Archistair from Cigraph?

It's free too

Cheers.
Ben

Ben archistair is third party and archiwall and and. Stairs are NOT chairs and tables to be provided by third party.

We were asking for differect section-plan fills for walls (to say smthf basic) and was ignored as almost ALL of other wishes of all users.
To inform you docable pallets are 5 minutes of work if you have ever made code with delphi or visual c++ and we could live without it.

If you boys say its ok... then we could have NO of our wishes implemented.
The reason i left autocad behind is they thought we were fools. From version autocad 2000 to 2005 we have features that we ought to see in 1 version skip.

I could shut up if it was 8.3 or 8.5.. but 9???
PLease make a list of all our polls (or the most visitied ones) and see.
If OUR opinion does not matter then we should be told so.

I was really hoping for some features of the many asked here and we get only 2 for design (text and hatch).

I am waiting for Djorgie's opinion

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:08:14 GMT

Dr wrote:
well I just found the first glitch with AC9. The Quick time movie clips will not show, no way no how. Downloaded QT 6.5 (the very latest) Installed QT. Tried three different qt movies on AC9's whats new. No go. Downloaded the QT movies to disk. Still can't make them work. Apple and AC 9 don't like each other allready.

Have you downloaded the techsmith ensharpen codec for quicktime, it can be found at http://www.techsmith.com/download/ensharpendefault.asp?lid=DownloadEnSharpen

as a mac user dowload the AC9 Powerful 3 movie, this gives details of the new renderer running on multi processor G5's. sweet.

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:14:20 GMT

Somebody said ..........I could shut up if it was 8.3 or 8.5.. but 9???

Holy crap plotmakers gone from version 3.1 to version 9 it must be really good now

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:17:20 GMT

oreopoulos.
I hear what you are saying, I think that you will find that most, if not all of the new features are indeed wishes.
I belive, from a reliable source, that Graphisoft has a wish list with some 5000 wishes and growing every day.

I agree that maybe some important issues may have been over looked but as I stated earlier there are enough new and fantastic features to warrant the name ArchiCAD 9.

Cheers.
Ben

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:24:07 GMT

1) Docable palletes (interface feature)
2) User Profiles (interface feature)
3) Slightly new menu system (interface feature)
4) Magnet tool for selection (work feature)
5) Create new stories on the fly (work feature)
6) Every layer pop-up shows all attributes (work feature)
7) Additions in 2d pet pallet such as simultaneous filleting of
all edges of a polygon (work feature)
Cool Hatches in slabs zones... (work feature)
9) Text orientation in xrefs (work feature)
10) Dimensions and user profiles (work feature)
11) Grid layout and fixed width autotext in Plotmaker (work feature)
12) Full integration of pdf in plotmaker. No printer driver is needed and the layout of each page is read automatically of the layout page (output feature)
13) Internal Text Editor (at last) (work feature)
14) Lightworks Rendering engine (work feature)
15) Faster

These are the features in the new version.
Sorry but if they have 5000 wishes that means that they must not include only 15 in a new version.
As simple as that.
See the wish list. Please. The most wanted are simply ignored

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:32:08 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
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Sorry but if they have 5000 wishes that means that they must not include only 15 in a new version.
As simple as that.
See the wish list. Please. The most wanted are simply ignored

If they granted all 5000 wishes what would they put in ArchiCAD 10?

Probably 4500 bug fixes!

Re: ArchiCAD 9 is shipping in mid-September!

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:35:45 GMT

Lennox wrote:
oreopoulos wrote:
.
Sorry but if they have 5000 wishes that means that they must not include only 15 in a new version.
As simple as that.
See the wish list. Please. The most wanted are simply ignored

If they granted all 5000 wishes what would they put in ArchiCAD 10?

Probably 4500 bug fixes!

If they have 5000 improtant wishes then it means they have a really bad product.
And because archicad is great 5000 is just a joke