topic Re: Fills+window background in Modeling

Fills+window background

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:21:24 GMT

Hi I'm having a little issue with fills.

The attached image shows two fills side by side,
- both are 25% Pen 1 (Black)
- Left is set to window background colour, Right has the background set to a white pen.

Obviously the background of the window is white - so any ideas why the fills look so different? (did I miss an override somewhere?)

Thanks!

Re: Fills+window background

Barry Kelly — Wed, 14 May 2014 05:39:12 GMT

There is no image attached.
Barry.

Re: Fills+window background

Barry Kelly — Wed, 14 May 2014 05:51:09 GMT

Are both your white pen and bacground colour RGB 255, 255, 255?
Or at least the same values as each other?

I just change my background to white and could see no discernable difference.

I just check the "Automatic pen colour visibility adjustment in model views" option in the Work Environment (on screen options).

This makes a slight difference as it will be changing the white pen to grey if you have that option turned on (I always thought it went black on a white background but there you go! - that's one reason I don't use white as a background).

Barry.

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:34:11 GMT

Thanks for the reply even though the image did not attach.

I didn't know about that automatic adjustment, thats useful. However, that only makes a slight difference to the colour. As you can see the difference is quite substantial.

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:39:09 GMT

Two more images (I can't seem to add images to the previous post)

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:41:41 GMT

Limit of one attachment per message....ok....

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2014 21:05:44 GMT

My workaround at the moment is to:
- toggle the background fill override
- chose a colour,
- chose the window background again
- toggle the override back off

that seems to get the "-1" to appear

The brick material fill on the left is how it appears as default, and the right is after the background has been toggled on and off.

Re: Fills+window background

Barry Kelly — Thu, 15 May 2014 02:44:54 GMT

I see you are using a cut fill with Building Materials.
Does the same thing happen for a regular cut fill or drafting fill?

Go into your fill (surface) settings and make sure the background pen is set properly there.

Barry.

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Thu, 15 May 2014 23:04:05 GMT

Hi Barry,

It happens to all fills (cut/building material - anything that uses the background pen).

Whenever the fill background box doesn't display "-1" beside it then the background colour comes in as a dark grey.

Re: Fills+window background

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 16 May 2014 12:28:35 GMT

This is working just fine for me.
I could only achieve a difference when I turned on the "Automatic pen colour visibility adjustment in model views" option in the Work Environment.
Otherwise both fills looked the same.
I am wondering if this might be graphics card driver related.
Could you save these fills as a PLN and share it on Dropbox or something similar and post the link? I would like to look at the file. If it works on my computer but not on your, then it may be hardware or driver related.

Re: Fills+window background

Anonymous — Mon, 19 May 2014 02:49:23 GMT

Sure, good idea. Here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uybol59q01pf8vt/Fill_Test.pln

Re: Fills+window background

Barry Kelly — Mon, 19 May 2014 03:09:40 GMT

Your fill tool has a '-2' pen set for the background default pen.
I don't know where a '-2' pen comes from.
But if you set your default fill tool to the background pen colour (-1) then all future fills will be fine.
Any existing fills you will have to amend as well.

Barry.

Re: Fills+window background

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 19 May 2014 18:40:19 GMT

I am thinking that those Fills might have come from a DWG/DXF file because there are RGB pens in AutoCAD.
But it is still strange to see -2 as background pen, I have never seen anything like it before so I will report this to GS, there may be something going on here.