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Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:10:33 GMT

Viktor Varkonyi, CEO of Graphisoft discusses Open Collaborative Design in this article:

http://www.aecbytes.com/viewpoint/2010/issue_53.html

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:39:20 GMT

Thanks for posting Laszlo.
It was nice to see Viktor is such a veteran of Archicad, not just a "corporate suite".
That's encouraging.

lec

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:46:30 GMT

"In addition, I am quite positive that certain functions of BIM will be available through Web interfaces sooner than many think."

Interesting.

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:53:59 GMT

He is probably referring to cloud-based solutions that are starting to appear from various big-name developers.

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:04:29 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
He is probably referring to cloud-based solutions that are starting to appear from various big-name developers.

to be honest that scares the **** out of me ! I should start praying AC15 will not be about that ...and only about that !

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Bricklyne Clarence — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:49:36 GMT

whatever wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
He is probably referring to cloud-based solutions that are starting to appear from various big-name developers.
to be honest that scares the **** out of me ! I should start praying AC15 will not be about that ...and only about that !

.......well, you can somewhat extrapolate based on the last couple or most recent versions.

ArchiCAD 13 was all (or rather, mostly) about Teamwork 2.0 - collaboration with other ArchiCAD users all over the globe.

ArchiCAD 14, was or rather is, pretty much all about open collaboration and "improved" IFC exchange with other non-ArchiCAD consultants and colleagues.

ArchiCAD 15...........

I wonder when they'll stop focusing on collaboration and information exchange outside of ArchiCAD, and start focusing instead on what's inside (and not working correctly or at all) ArchiCAD.

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:20:58 GMT

i can bet that archicad 20 will be able to rotate 3d obejcts

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:09:48 GMT

whatever wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
He is probably referring to cloud-based solutions that are starting to appear from various big-name developers.
to be honest that scares the **** out of me ! I should start praying AC15 will not be about that ...and only about that !

I have been following cloud-related BIM news recently.
A lot of people, mostly users, including me, are not very enthusiastic about that. The big question is for me: will they try to use the cloud to tighten control over users? We will see.

But most recently I have seen certain types of things appearing on the cloud while others not. For example, a could-based rendering solution or module may actually be a good and useful thing. Same as a rendering farm, only cloud-based.

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:50:05 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
whatever wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
He is probably referring to cloud-based solutions that are starting to appear from various big-name developers.
to be honest that scares the **** out of me ! I should start praying AC15 will not be about that ...and only about that !

A lot of people, mostly users, including me, are not very enthusiastic about that. The big question is for me: will they try to use the cloud to tighten control over users? We will see.

"Not very enthusiastic"? That's putting it mildly. As you so succinctly and politely do.
"Control over users" That's what has to be fought hard, and early on.
This could well be a 5-20 yr struggle which we are only seeing the very, very thin ghost outline of at the moment.
But even cloud for rendering may be archaic.
Case in point, the well known every expanding power of "desktops".

General Electric learned a version of this the hard way over 20 yrs ago
in Silicon Valley when they bought Calma with room after room after room of massive main frame computers to generate CAD drawings, and not even close to what is done today by mid power desktops,(as we all very well know).
I was involved in the clean up of that mess as a contractor.

Calma was bought with the idea that CAD would be driven by HUGE main frames. Circ. 1985ish. By 1989 it was realized that desktops were exploding onto the scene.

Fast forward some yrs and what will be on Architects/others desktops in 5-20yrs?
Maxwell quality renderings clocking in a 5-20 seconds????

lec

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:51:57 GMT

I don't think he is not talking about replacing ArchiCAD by cloud computing, but about BIM servers and Model servers which allow multiple disciplines to work on one model at the same time.

Re: Graphisoft CEO's article on AECBytes on AC14

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:07:17 GMT

I was not specifically referring to Graphisoft regarding cloud.
As I see it, it is more like Autodesk and other really big players who are pushing this direction.
So I don't worry much about ArchiCAD going to the cloud soon.

Viktor Varkonyi in that article says:

[...] BIM is now a complete platform made accessible for teams of any size or composition. [...] I see great potential for the continued development of BIM solutions both in terms of richness of forms and the level of intelligence of the models.[...]