topic Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17 in Modeling

Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:59:50 GMT

Can anybody help me figure out as to why I can't place a wall end on a complex profiled wall. I have no trouble placing one on an standard composite wall but my walls are complex profiles.

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Barry Kelly — Thu, 22 May 2014 03:17:49 GMT

They will place on some complex profile walls and not others - it seems to depend on how 'complex' the profile is.

As a cheat you can try swapping the complex profile wall for a standard composite wall.
Apply the wall end and then swap the wall back to the complex profile.
Sometimes the wall end will remain even though it couldn't be added in the first place.

However the wall end objects are not designed for complex profile walls so they may not be correct anyway.
i.e. it may not get the correct skin materials, heights may be wrong, may not match the profile of the wall.

Barry.

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

genarch — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 00:31:09 GMT

And here we are, years later, and still cannot use a wall end on a profiled wall.

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

alemanda — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:28:39 GMT

... cannot you use a complex profile column?

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:49:36 GMT

Or you could model the Wall End using the Morph Tool.

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Nikitas — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 08:59:22 GMT

genarch you're right!

This is an important and basic feature and should be nicely integrated into the wall tool!

Nikitas

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Barry Kelly — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 01:12:18 GMT

Nikitas wrote:
genarch you're right!

This is an important and basic feature and should be nicely integrated into the wall tool!

Nikitas

A complex profile wall can be absolutely any shape and any combination of numerous materials.
So I am not sure how we could expect a wall end object to interact with all but the simplest of complex profile walls.
I am surprised they do at all.

Barry.

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Nikitas — Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:19:10 GMT

Barry you're right,

complex profile walls can contain a large number of builidng materials and shapes and the wall end wouldn't work properly here.
Still, by shifting from the conceptual phase to the construction phase we will be using or exchanging mainly to composite walls and complex profiles of course.
Having to insert wall endings to all free standing walls is just a time consuming process for something that is certainly standard work. At least that's what I'm encounting.

By having the wall end tool incorporated into the wall options would allow for an automated solution when it comes to complete construction drawings.

That's my oppinion, tell me if I'm wrong.
Thanks and good night,

Nikitas

Re: Wall end to a Complex profile wall - V17

Barry Kelly — Mon, 25 Jun 2018 01:16:48 GMT

Having wall end options directly in the wall tool itself would be nice, but then you are adding this option to every wall in the project rather than just adding an object to the few walls you may want to control the ends for.
I assume it could be an option that could be turned off, but I am not sure how it would affect the processing speed of Archicad.

Still it would probably only work with simple and composite walls.
I still don't think it would work well with complex profile walls.
Especially now in 22 we have modifiers for complex profiles that will allow individual profiled walls to be adjusted - so even more problems for the wall end to overcome.

Barry.