topic Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool in Modeling

Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 14:35:16 GMT

I'm trying to figure out the Morph tool, have watched all the videos, but I still can't seem to select a surface to push/pull in 3D (I can do it in plan view). I can select nodes and edges, but not the face of an object.

I'm attaching a picture of the only PET Palette I can get working with Morphs in 3D.

Am I doing something wrong??

On a side note- the videos are helpful to introduce WHAT can be done, but they move too fast, and are too tiny to be instructional. You can 't really see where they are clicking and what PET palette is popping up. Making the video full screen just makes it blurry.

Is there a text instruction manual for using the Morph tool?

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:02:32 GMT

Re: fuzzy videos - In case you're not aware, you can choose what resolution you want for your Youtube videos (up to the max uploaded by the provider).

For example, the attached shows that the intro Morph video can be viewed in 720 HD - that is just not the default, for speed reasons.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:04:12 GMT

For the missing push-pull in 3D, see if Katalin's answer / video here helps:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=205713#205713

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:42:58 GMT

No, sorry, that doesn't help. The first problem is that I can't select a face of the object- I can only select edges and nodes.

Here is what I am doing:
Creating Morph object (simple square)--> selecting Morph--> opening in 3D -->Selecting morph in 3D--> trying to click on the surface plane--> object unselects itself.

I've tried toggling grouping, hidden morph geometry... nothing works. I feel I am missing some critical step, but I can't figure it out.

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:41:23 GMT

There is a new sub-element selction method that lets you select edges and faces of Morphs. CTRL+SHIFT is the key combination for it.

Or, maybe the Options\Surface Snap menu toggle is not ON.

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:07:03 GMT

Lazlo- I tried both of those things, no luck. SO- I opened a completely new file with the standard AC 16 Profile, and everything works.

Something in my profile that I carried over from AC15 must be the culprit. I wasn't getting the little off-set square icon for my cursor. Any idea what setting I'm missing? Something in Work Environment (I looked but nothing seemed obvious to me).

Thanks!

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:22:49 GMT

Exact same issue over here...
any solution for missing push/pull pallet?

edit:
I found it on another topic...
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=205881

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Hmooslechner — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:47:55 GMT

try to alter the 3d-View from open-gl to internal engine. Maybe the old graphiccard-driverprogram causes this. - So You can test it with the internal engine.

By the way-
You know how to switch the arrow-tool between selecting methodes? (white or black arrow in the infobox..)

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

David Maudlin — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:40:50 GMT

designade wrote:
I wasn't getting the little off-set square icon for my cursor.

It look like this does not appear when using the Arrow Tool, try selecting the Morph Tool in the Toolbox.

David

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 18:04:29 GMT

Hi Designade, I'm having the exaCT! same problem and it's making me crazy.. Have you figured out what's wrong?

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 18:13:02 GMT

Dstoi wrote:
Hi Designade, I'm having the exaCT! same problem and it's making me crazy.. Have you figured out what's wrong?

None of the solutions below work for you? = Select the Morph Tool while working on the selected morph, and adjust the viewing angle in 3D if necessary....

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

ksjhawk — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:30:23 GMT

Same problem. When I try to click on the morph face, I get nothing. I've tried a couple of methods for selecting the faces without any luck. I do find that I can go to another file and it will work, but I cannot get it to work here. This is also not the first file it has happened to me on.

Has there been any development on fixing this? I do still have limited ability to extrude a face...if its a flat plan and I pick a node, I can use the tube option to extrude the face, but it doesn't help when I'm trying to extrude a solid.

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:54:20 GMT

See if hidden geometry is the issue. See Katlin's post and video:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=205713#205713

and/or

http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/videos/archicad/3d-modeling/morph/advanced-morph-modeling-techniques/archicad-16-the-morph-tool-toggling-the-display-of-hidden-morph-geometry/

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

ksjhawk — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:51:27 GMT

thanks, but that's not it...it's in line with the last few comments on this post...I reviewed the previous suggestions with no progress

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Link — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:17:33 GMT

At risk of stating the absolute obvious again, do you have Quick Selection enabled?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

ksjhawk — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:28:14 GMT

nope...

this is not a problem I have typically, but on two files it has happened. I can still select individual edges, I still have the ability to alter the morph in every other way, with the exception of selecting individual faces and clicking on a face to push or pull it...when I try, the cursor blinks and the morph becomes deselected...I tried posting a video but it was way too big for the attachment limit

I am assuming dstoi and designade we're having the same problem I am

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

ksjhawk — Wed, 15 Jan 2014 21:23:54 GMT

Believe it or not...this has finally fixed my probablem, and explains why it was a problem in some files but not others...store this away for future reference!

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=40009&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=10

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 10:04:59 GMT

Seemingly, the combination Ctrl+Shift+click for morph elements selection works only when the Quick Selection option (the magnet icon in the top left corner) is activated. At least for me it solved the problem.

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Barry Kelly — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 01:37:40 GMT

Kinalj wrote:
Seemingly, the combination Ctrl+Shift+click for morph elements selection works only when the Quick Selection option (the magnet icon in the top right corner) is activated. At least for me it solved the problem.

That is correct, the quick selection must be active to select a surface.

I would consider this a bug personally.
When you activate the 'select sub-elements' option - either by pressing the button in the selection tool or by pressing CTRL+SHIFT, the quick selection magnet appears on the cursor when you pass over a morph surface.
It even highlights the surface if you pause for the required amount of time.
But you can not select it unless the quick select magnet button is activated or you hold the 'Spacebar' key.
So potentially CTRL+SHIFT+SPACEBAR.

It is not a big deal as most people usually have the quick select active or they use the spacebar when required, so not real change there.

It is just odd the without quick select active, the surface will highlight as if you can select it , but you can't.
Just tested this in 25.

Barry

Re: Can't select plane in Morph tool

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 08:50:50 GMT

Barry, where is the "like" button? And sorry, it's the top left corner, mea culpa.