topic multi-cladding in one single wall in Modeling

multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:28:30 GMT

Hi All,
I have a question,
Is there any way to make multi-cladding in one single wall?? Ie, brick veneer wall with plaster above window head.

I’ve tried with 2 walls on different levels, 0-2200mm (make wall to brick veneer), 2200 – 3000mm (make wall to plaster), but then the window I’ve inserted on the brick veneer walls has covered by the plaster wall above it, which make it hard to see window openings on floor plan.

Is there any other easier way to do multi-cladding in one single wall??

much thanks

Star

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:18:11 GMT

try to use custome profile in wall setting or by archiwall

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:05:00 GMT

Hi mabbase,

Thanks for your response.

I am still curious:
1. where is Archiwall in wall setting??
2. Does custome profile in wall setting do have multi cladding function in it?? I can't find it in there. I thought they are just the tool making all sort of shape in sections??

Much thanks.

Star

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Aussie John — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:05:25 GMT

You can also try wall accessories. (wont wrap into window reveals though). There is one that does wall panelling and mouldings

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:14:42 GMT

Hi Aussie John,
I've tried it before, but because I am working on a Housing development with a little urban design involved, the files is so huge that slow down 3D converting as well as the rendering times. So i've decided just to use the wall tool to reduce the complexity.
But thanks for that.

Do you or any one have other way to do this in a big project without using wall builder??

Cheers.

Star

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Link — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:58:37 GMT

This is what Complex Profiles are for. They give reasonable control over window/door openings. Go to Design>Complex Profiles>Profile Manager...

Cheers,
Link.

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:10:30 GMT

Thanks everyone,

I've just worked right through the complex profile tools. and worked for me.

cool.

Star

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Stress Co_ — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:19:05 GMT

Old School solution..

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Andy Thomson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:16:18 GMT

Just checking in to see if anyone has had success creating wall/roof accessories per requirements. There is another thread on board and batten wall accesories, but resolves as a linework/fill tip: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=79620&highlight=wall+accessories#79620

Not what I am after. Also, complex profiles can't handle sine-wave cladding, since fills can't do splines, and only fills will define CP's.

I am after a variety of sidings, bevel, shiplap, T&G, board and batten, metal claddings. I have tried a bunch of purchased solutions years ago (Parch siding - from OO), but have heard CI's accessory objects are good for this. Has anyone tried them? I actually really like the roof surfacer, if only I could apply the same elements to walls!

Again, I don't care so much for linework, I am after 3D model elements as wall accessories - this is for a multi-unit development where I want to be able to switch different building skins on the fly. CP's will work for most of the conditions, but are a little less elegant than accessories...Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sorry for the cross-post - I got a debug error, user unknown...

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:25:50 GMT

Link wrote:
This is what Complex Profiles are for. They give reasonable control over window/door openings. Go to Design>Complex Profiles>Profile Manager...

Cheers,
Link.

Link,
Do you know if Graphisoft ever updated the wa_trim_us_10.gsm macro??? This is the macro that was causing windows to display as a dot when placed in a profiled wall. Matthew Lohden graciously provided a fix for this but you need to unpack the LCF file to add it. I tried it and it works.

I work with so many different clients I hate to have to walk them through how to do it so they can see their windows when I send them their files. I guess I'm hoping that Graphisoft has fixed this in the latest build but am not sure.

Dan K

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Aaron Bourgoin — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:33:47 GMT

Two Things:

1. sorry if I am perceived as lazy, but where is Matthew's 'fix'. I knowsomeone who's problem could be solved if I found it.

2. Cadimage Accessory Tool is very interesting when it comes to cladding walls. Basically it creates a Pressure Equalized Rainsreen Wall Assembly

cf. http://www.homeenergy.org/archive/hem.dis.anl.gov/eehem/99/991108.html

It lacks the parameters to detail the materials between the structural wall and the outside finish, but as many jurisdictions in Canada are looking at this solution and some - like British Columbia - are making it mandatory, the Accessory tool shouldn't be overlooked.

For the Wall Section detailer the Accessory tool affords you the advantage of creating a modeled wall where components of the assembly terminate at different heights. And thuis can be done without excessive transofrmation of the wall section from live model view to static 2D drawing. Cladding can extend below the floor line and terminate at the soffit. Editing the Wall Cladding is done graphically.

Have alook at it and keep encouraging Tony Krepler and company to add some more functionality to it. In my estimation it has great potential to stop being strictly a visualization tool and cross over into the realm of being the detailer's 'must-have accessory'.

The Roffing accessory doesn't seem to work all that well for asphalt shingled roofs - too many pieces of flashing and support that can't be turned off, but again it ismiles ahead of anything I've come across. Until the ArchiCAD wall can understand internally the difference between a ridge and a valley on a pitched roof assembly, the modeling of a roof for construction purposes is a daunting thing.

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:02:05 GMT

Aaron wrote:
1. sorry if I am perceived as lazy, but where is Matthew's 'fix'. I knowsomeone who's problem could be solved if I found it.

You can find it here.

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 04:37:16 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Aaron wrote:
1. sorry if I am perceived as lazy, but where is Matthew's 'fix'. I knowsomeone who's problem could be solved if I found it.
You can find it here.

Matthew,
Do you know if Graphisoft has ever updated their AC10 library to fix this problem? It looks like the latest updated library is dated October 26,2006...hardly seems like the updated macro would be included as your fix was developed later than that.

If it has never been fixed, I wonder what most users are doing when trying to place a window in a profiled wall?

Thanks,
Dan K

Re: multi-cladding in one single wall

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 04:56:22 GMT

Dan wrote:
If it has never been fixed, I wonder what most users are doing when trying to place a window in a profiled wall?

Cussing at it and figuring out a workaround I guess.