topic Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to " in Modeling

Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "arrow"?

rob2218 — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:04:39 GMT

I'm stuck folks...it seems that from time to time...I'm touching or toggling a combination of key strokes that switches my selection icon from an "arrow" to a "hand pan" tool? I'm not sure what I'm pressing when I cause this to happen but it's annoying as heck...and I'm having trouble getting it back to standard "arrow" selection icon.
I know it's somewhere on the left side of the keyboard. somewhere when I inadvertantly hit the "tiddle key" or the "tab key" or the "ctrl+esp" or tildy combo...but I just can't seem to figure out WHICH of these key strokes and combo keystrokes I'm causing to switch the arrow selection icon to a hand icon...please anyone...help.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

rob2218 — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:05:50 GMT

I'm sure others have experienced this and have found the answer so please....it's really driving me batty!

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:32:34 GMT

Hi.
Try checking under Work Environments - Keyboard Shortcuts.
Look at the entire list in alphabetical order.
Find 'Pan".
See what key combos are assigned to it.
Then change the keyboard shortcut so you don't hit it by accident...

My pan shortcuts are not easily hit by mistake.

-Cheers

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

rob2218 — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:34:04 GMT

thanks a heep.
much appreciated.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:53:12 GMT

As far as I know, clicking the middle mouse (or mouse wheel) is the default command to switch from arrow to pan.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

rob2218 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:24:43 GMT

i checked the working environment and I don't have any assigned shortcuts. it's very odd...happens when I'm holding down my left "shif" key while I'm toggling thru objects trying to locate what's on top, bottom etc...
sometimes I click my finger on a button, then all of a sudden the hand pan icon comes on. I can still select with the hand pan icon but it's not very accurate. it's as if as though the "arrow" selection icon changes to a "hand pan" selection icon because of this certain key stroke combination.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:24:09 GMT

Hello,

We're having the same problem in our office and would be VERY keen to figure out what is going on? Our support people are saying it is user error but also not sure what buttons are being pushed to get this 'hand pan'.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Erwin Edel — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:19:57 GMT

It seems to be a bug where the mouse pointer gets stuck in one mode. Quite often it's pan, but I've had it get stuck on other symbols too. Activating the arrow select tool in the toolbox fixes it again.

As I recall this started happening when we switched from Windows XP (32 bit) to Windows 7 (64 bit). Happens in AC15 and AC16. Haven't used AC11-14 much to tell if it happens there.

I've tried a lot of things with updating mouse driver and whatnot, but no result. So far I've just gotten used to activating the arrow select tool now and then when I notice the pointer is stuck in one type of symbol.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:40:00 GMT

I don't know if it's a bug or a glitch but it isn't user error. I have seen similar behavior, though rarely, on my Mac. As I recall tabbing out and back into ArchiCAD and maybe just switching windows fixes it.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:57:29 GMT

Seen it too. Stuck in white arrow, invisible, pan, etc. Using Esc and switching back and forth from another program fixes it.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:35:23 GMT

Thanks everyone for your responses. Good to hear we're not the only ones. Frustrating that there doesn't appear to be a "reasonable" answer, it's definitely workable with all the above buy irritating. Does anyone else find that? We do all of those things too was just hoping there was some simple answer that would stop it forever! 🙂

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:57:07 GMT

I expect it's an IO anomaly like how pet palette selections don't always take and despite the appearance of changing are still on the previous command. As I understand it these sorts of things can be very difficult to sort out as they typically involve coordinating input and display driver behaviors with executable code and user interrupts.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:24:39 GMT

I have had this exact issue:
I am a PC user, and use two keyboard settings, one for writing in English and one for Spanish. Normally the task bar presents you with a reminder as to which keyboard is in use. BUT, it is a on again off again deal. Any change of program (check your email or browse for an online detail) and even some internal AC process will reset the keyboard setting.

Anyway, two bad things happen, the hand vs arrow tool problem and also the right hand alt key is inactivated or sometimes changed into the equivalent of a combined Alt+Ctrl. EXTREMELY frustrating.

THE FIX: I finally decided to remove the extra keyboard from my control panel settings and all is well in mouseland again.

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Marton Kiss — Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:02:26 GMT

Guys,

does any of you have Logitech Control Center or the Logitech driver installed? I was running a similar investigation here at GRAPHISOFT where the feedback was gone while performing a pan during an input.

What we found out was that if the driver was installed somehow an end signal did not reach ArchiCAD, as a result the cursor stuck in pan mode and the visual feedback was waiting for the pan to be finished.

We have found a workaround for such situations, which is now out with ArchiCAD 17, but I am wondering maybe something like this happens in different situations.

Marton

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Erwin Edel — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:40:59 GMT

I've installed logitech drivers after the problem started occuring to see if that would fix it. I'll try uninstalling them, as I don't use any of the features. Will respond if that has any affect in ArchiCAD 15 or 16 (mostly using those at the moment).

Re: Which buttons switch from "hand pan" to "

Erwin Edel — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:34:40 GMT

I've uninstalled the logitech drivers + software. Currently running microsoft HID-compliant mouse driver 21-6-2006 6.1.7600.16385.

I'm using a logitecht MX 400 performance laser mouse.

The problem is still occuring for me in ArchiCAD 15. I haven't tried ArchiCAD 16 yet.