topic Re: Rope Moulding creation question in Modeling

Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 14:53:51 GMT

Hello,
I'm hoping someone might have a good solution for this; I have a client who wants rope moldings accents on a lot of cabinetry, up until now I have been modifying the spiral object in the special conts. folder to create the look but the more I add to this the longer all my processing goes so this is not a good full model solution. I have cadimage’s Profiler tool and we picked up Objective this weekend to maybe model a more efficient way to create this both in my time and in processing time. Thanks

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:21:39 GMT

Hi Woodz,

Can you post a picture of what you are trying to achieve?...

Also... it would help us help you if you create a signature in your profile with your OS, AC version and hardware specs.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Djordje — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:24:16 GMT

Whichever way you do it, it is going to add gazillions of polygons and slow you down.

Good luck.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Steve Jepson — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:34:54 GMT

Braza wrote:
Can you post a picture of what you are trying to achieve?...

like this?

http://www.vectorart3d.com/store/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Detail&ID=50427

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:55:58 GMT

That picture accurate for one part, the rope in the crown moulding on the cabinets, the other part is the client is having custom cabinets milled with a 1" wide rope framing the raised panel on the doors. I will upload a quick pick of that shortly.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Steve Jepson — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:00:28 GMT

Why does it need to be in 3d ?

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:24:37 GMT

Ok Woodz... I got it...

If you want it all modeled in 3d... you can do it... But as Djordje said... Prepare for a polygon nightmare.

If I were in this situation... I'd create a complex profile with 2 fills...

One for the plain wood, and another semi circular to which I would apply another material with a rope texture...

This would make your life a hell lot easy with the 3d renderings...

HTH.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Ralph Wessel — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:18 GMT

woodz31 wrote:
Hello,
I'm hoping someone might have a good solution for this; I have a client who wants rope moldings [] we picked up Objective this weekend to maybe model a more efficient way to create this both in my time and in processing time.

You can easily model this with OBJECTiVE (see attached image). You can also easily control the facetting of profiles created with OBJECTiVE - they all have a setting specifically for this purpose. You can make the objects very smooth for close-up renders, or a bit chunkier (and with far fewer polygons) for everything else. Let me know if you'd like more detailed instructions (or an example).

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:30:21 GMT

Ralph,
That looks great, I would be greatly interested in learning the steps to do that, any help or instruction I would appreciate. Thanks in advance.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Steve Jepson — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:46:18 GMT

Yes. Very nice Ralph.

I have made this rope trim the hard way too.
You can make a 1/2 ring with the profiler, view it from the top, save it as a library part, rotate it to 45 deg., and then multiply it close together so it looks like a rope. Not a good option unless your desperate.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

vistasp — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:27:52 GMT

Hi Ralph,

It seems there's nothing that OBJECTiVE can't do. Next thing we'll find out that it also makes coffee! 😉

GS, please make a deal with Ralph for this fantastic object and distribute it like his stunning Modular Joinery Object. You're guaranteed to have more subscriptions coming your way.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:37:30 GMT

Indeed Objective is a very handy tool for that tuff jobs... No doubt...

But in this situation... a "simple" complex profile ( ) and a SEO´ed "Spiral 12" object could easily do the job too...

Again... Prepare for a nightmare polygon...

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Ralph Wessel — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:26:06 GMT

woodz31 wrote:
That looks great, I would be greatly interested in learning the steps to do that, any help or instruction I would appreciate. Thanks in advance.

Refer to the attached image:

1) Select the Regular Profile object bundled with OBJECTiVE, and apply the settings as shown to make it a vertical spiral with a round profile. Note that you can control the smoothness (and number of faces in 3D) using these settings.
2) Use multiply to repeat this single instance over the required length
3) You should have something like this
4) If you want to trim off the top/base of the 'rope', place an elevation alongside it and use OBJECTiVE's Split tool to cut them off
5) You should finish up with something like this.

You can change the smoothness at any time to control the complexity of the 3D model. The model should be quite practical if the smoothness is set appropriately.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Steve Jepson — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:42:07 GMT

Woodz31,
How's that miter work'n for ya? This is made with ArchiCAD only.

Shot at 2009-08-25

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:21:35 GMT

Haven't worked the objective moulding into the crown yet but this where I'm at with just useing the ac 11 sprial object set to simple, not bad so far.

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Steve Jepson — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:24:15 GMT

looks great!

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:04:28 GMT

Well done Woods!

Just to check... How is your machine handling this?

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:57:41 GMT

Hi vistasp
Was wondering what you meant by:
"and distribute it like his stunning Modular Joinery Object"
Has the MJO been distributed?
And if yes, location?
Thanks
lec

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:05:10 GMT

Absolutely "steller" Ralph, woodz31 ,Steve and Braza.
No wonder I gave up on Autocad dos 9 in 1989, trying
to make my own simple "isometric" 3d modular cabinet set
because I could not afford Cabinetware!
My, what 20yrs of innovation has brought us all.
Wow, now I just need to learn it all, someday.
Thanks everyone, this thread has inspired me to try even harder!
lec

Re: Rope Moulding creation question

vistasp — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:18:40 GMT

lec1212 wrote:
Has the MJO been distributed?
And if yes, location?
Thanks
lec

Hi Lec,

See this thread on the MJO and its distribution here:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=141436

In a nutshell, GS-UK commissioned Ralph Wessel to create this object and then decided to distribute it to their subscribers. Subsequently, it was given to other distributors worldwide to do the same. Many are/were unaware about its very existence and had to be pushed to contact GS-UK. Mine sent me a CD in the mail within a few days. Your mileage may vary - apparently others have not been as lucky.