topic Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle in Modeling

prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:51:42 GMT

Wondering if there's a way to change the default display of roof angle in display box to roof pitch.........can't seem to locate a way

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:59:39 GMT

I don't think there is any way to do that in the info palette. I always open the settings dialog for that. After a bit I always end up remembering the decimal values for the primary pitches on the project.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:08:17 GMT

I was hoping to save some steps and take advantage of my computers memory rather than rely on mine..........tad more reliable I'm afraid

I feared that this wasn't an option with AC but thought perhaps someone had solved this riddle by now.........the "commit it to memory" gets old especially when you're working through initial design and deciding which roof pitch, or pitches work best.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:11:21 GMT

A roof tag (label) could be made to do it.

It could be as simple as creating a custom label with two lines in the 2D script:

slope_in_12 = TAN(ROOF_ANGLE)*12
Text2 0, 0, slope_in_12 + ":12"

Of course this will only give a decimal and not feet and fractional inches (that's too much to sort out off the top of my head) and you'd probably want to add define and set style statements to get the font size you want.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:19:58 GMT

yes, that's a thought but essentially I'm just after instant information, [info box]. I can be looking simultaneously at multiple schematic models, where just selecting a roof in 3D window clarifies a 3/12 from a 2/12 and so on........by the time I'm documenting the pitch is memorized, even by me

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Stress Co_ — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:29:20 GMT

Jefferson wrote:
Wondering if there's a way to change the default display of roof angle in display box to roof pitch

I second the motion.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:32:25 GMT

Stress wrote:
Jefferson wrote:
Wondering if there's a way to change the default display of roof angle in display box to roof pitch
I second the motion.

While we're at it how about being able to set the relative elevation in the info palette to home story, or sea level, etc? I would like to be able to select a ceiling on the 5th floor and know it's height above the floor rather than above project zero. For now I set the user origin and check the z coordinate but this is rather fussy compared to just selecting the ceiling and reading the height.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Barry Kelly — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:46 GMT

I would just like to be able to input degrees and minutes rather than decimal degrees.
All the other inputs change with the working unit preferences but not the roof pitch.

And don't mention that you can't use the roof pitch as an output field in the interactive schedules.

Barry.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:45:47 GMT

In my country we use % for roof slope, which is actually a fractional presentation. For example 30%=30/100, which is quite easier for the builders to understand (hopefully!) then degrees of minutes and seconds.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:46:33 GMT

Yup! Once again a series of requests for the option of information input-output that relates to how we, and the construction industry, work rather than how the computer works..........novel concept

Perhaps by version 16, which coincidentally may be the next time there's funding for an upgrade.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Erika Epstein — Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:17:28 GMT

Jefferson,
This is a great wish.
Can you turn it into one with a poll?

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:13:04 GMT

Hi Erika

I've not gotten the feeling that polls make a load of difference up or down, and, I've never done it before but please feel free to take those steps yourself. Obviously this is something most of us would like to see change........

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:59:37 GMT

GRAPHISOFT does review the polls and wishes time to time, so it's always good to have it there. I have recorded this one for now.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:06:32 GMT

Thanks Gergely.........Wasn't intending to whine about GS's response there. This is in fact the way almost all of work, certainly those of stuck with imperial units, and I believe it's a small change that could, make a big difference on a daily level.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:25:56 GMT

Jefferson wrote:
Wondering if there's a way to change the default display of roof angle in display box to roof pitch.........can't seem to locate a way

gkmethy wrote:
GRAPHISOFT does review the polls and wishes time to time, so it's always good to have it there. I have recorded this one for now.

This wish has been granted in 15. Pleasant surprise to see the revised Info Box for roofs, attached. Just as in the Settings dialog, you can choose pitch, angle, etc for Info Box display.

Thanks, GS! Little things like this really do help. 🙂

Karl

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Barry Kelly — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:35:01 GMT

Barry wrote:
I would just like to be able to input degrees and minutes rather than decimal degrees.
All the other inputs change with the working unit preferences but not the roof pitch.

And don't mention that you can't use the roof pitch as an output field in the interactive schedules.

Barry.

And I got my wish to be able to output the roof pitch in schedules too.

Now all we need is to be able to input degrees, minutes and seconds into the roof tool and it will be almost perfect.

Barry.

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Jefferson — Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:37:20 GMT

NICE!

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:28:38 GMT

Jefferson wrote:
Yup! Once again a series of requests for the option of information input-output that relates to how we, and the construction industry, work rather than how the computer works..........novel concept

Perhaps by version 16, which coincidentally may be the next time there's funding for an upgrade.

Aloha Jeff, Gergely and Karl,
I am really thankful to see that roof pitches can be changed in the Info Box in ArchiCAD 15.
I think that it would be hugely helpful for us, the users, to be able to give input to the Graphisoft programmers about how we need ArchiCAD to work. How can we give you our constructive input on improving how ArchiCAD works?
Thank you,
John

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 01:07:59 GMT

johncassel wrote:
I think that it would be hugely helpful for us, the users, to be able to give input to the Graphisoft programmers about how we need ArchiCAD to work. How can we give you our constructive input on improving how ArchiCAD works?

...by using the various Wish forums here, posting only ONE suggestion per wish in the Wish forum that is most related to the desired improvement.

(Posting a wish or a thread that lists many, often dozens, of requests - as has been happening in the thread on AC 16 this year - is not particularly helpful other than for people to vent. People should save their breath in that kind of thread, unless it is therapeutically helpful to them.)

While more work on our end, one focused topic per wish (or other thread) lets GS link a corresponding development list directly to that thread for fine-tuning, should they wish to do that. 😉

Cheers,
Karl

Re: prefer roof pitch instead of angle

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:43:01 GMT

Karl wrote:
This wish has been granted in 15. Pleasant surprise to see the revised Info Box for roofs, attached. Just as in the Settings dialog, you can choose pitch, angle, etc for Info Box display Karl

Karl, I like what I see Karl in the pic that you posted - showing settings for roof slope in pitch such as 3 in 4.
I am using AUS FULL version of v15 r3267 BUT I still only have the options of degrees or percentage slope in the Info Box or the Roof Settings.
How or why can this be?
Is the Slope (gradient) setting made available only in the US version of AC15?