topic Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan in Modeling

Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:11:38 GMT

I have some cabinets placed on a story and they are greyed out so I cannot edit or delete if need be...? What setting do I need to change or where do I look to locate them so they are editable?

Using ArchiCAD v.12

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:39:54 GMT

It's likely that either the layer the object is on is locked or just the object itself.

If the former, you can go to layer dialog box and unlock specific layer (or right-click on object and select 'layer' and then 'unlock'.

If the object's layer is already unlocked, you could try selecting the object and then Edit>Locking>Unlock to unlock just the specific object.

There may be other options, i.e. if the object is part of a hot-link module, but i would try these first.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:57:17 GMT

Neither of these suggestions allowed the object to become editable or deletable?

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:13:16 GMT

Isolate the layer and leave only the object you need to delete in that layer,
delete the layer and then create a new one.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:05:47 GMT

The object when selected is not on a layer and does show any tool associated to, so...

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Barry Kelly — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:41:55 GMT

Are you looking at a trace reference by any chance?
Barry.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:17:47 GMT

What is a trace reference?

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:58:57 GMT

Strange, if you delete the layer, the object will be deleted too.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:03:13 GMT

SADSNa wrote:
What is a trace reference?

The Trace Reference is a "ghost" image of another part of your project (it can be a view, worksheet, layout, another storey...) for reference / alignment purposes. The toolbar button looks like my image below. Items on Trace Reference cannot be selected, and do not print.

Check it out in Archicad Help. Very handy.

In your case can you actually select these items? If yes, what sort of handles do they have (square, round, grouped?) Can you show us a screenshot?

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:57:35 GMT

Oh yes I do know the trace reference very well.
The handles are round and dark green and when selected in the elevation view the object is grey and still exists, even if I delete in plan or vice versa, so....

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:51:02 GMT

I believe we have observed the same behavior in V16 for one of our projects, both in teamwork and solo modes. We have had some cabinet objects (converted from v15 cabinet objects) that even though they are on a unlocked layer, are not editable. When we selected the objects to try to unlock them from the edit menu, the "lock" option was greyed out and the "unlock" option was available, but when selected it had no effect. Also, when using the find command to find all objects, these unlockable objects would not be included in the selection set. After we closed the project and reopened it, we were able to successfully unlock the objects from the edit menu option. We never locked the objects in the first place, and have assumed it was a bug in Archicad. We have not had this issue occur since. You say you are using v12 though, so I don't know if these issues are the same.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:04:23 GMT

Something to take into consideration.

If someone that has the AC with the MEP module opens and saves a regular AC file all the objects that contain parameters that MEP can read will become locked if the file is later opened in a regular AC version without MEP.

They will remain locked even if they are in an unlocked Layer.

The only way to unlock them is to chose Unlock from the Edit->Locking Menu.

(Edited for clarity. Thinking in Spanish and writing in English sometimes is not a good combination. Hope it is clear now.)

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:06:21 GMT

Yes, we use the MEP Modeler plug-in and it may have been responsible for some of the behavior we have seen in that project with the cabinet objects/equipments . We have not been able to reproduce the condition and all is well now.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:00:43 GMT

The locking to objects with MEP connections occurs when the file is opened in an ArchiCAD instance that does not have the MEP Modeler installed.

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Haneef Tayob — Wed, 21 May 2014 14:57:38 GMT

Thanks for the tip. We have one station that has the MEP license. All the bathroom library parts were locked on the rest of the work stations.
Did not realise that the edit-unlock would solved the problem.
Would be great if GS could include the lock/unlock function in the pet palette that comes up when one right-clicks

Thanks

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Iqra Hoda — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:44:54 GMT

This is the strangest occurance ever. Unlocking from the edit- Locking menu worked. but right click and unlock did not.

thank you so much its been racking my brain for hours now!

Re: Cannot delete a library part placed in plan

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 10:31:21 GMT

There is no right click and unlock command that I know of.

This is only to lock / unlock a layer.

If you lock an element, you can not unlock it using the lock / unlock layer command.

Locking an element and locking a layer are two different things.

Barry.