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Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:56:44 GMT

ArchiCAD is a useful software for me , but since i have used it only a short period, when i introduce it to my friend, they ask me some question which i can't answer.

1. Is it archicad only for architect? how do it cooperate with surveyor, engineer, etc.......?

2. i know archicad can draw 2d and import details from dwg file, but does it mean the draftman still need AutoCAD for modifying the details? because on my own, i really hope archicad to replace other 2d/3d cad software.

3. ArchiCAD is a BIM software, and will it be the trend of architectural drawings? because in my country, it is still a very new thing that people even don't know what it is.

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:32:00 GMT

any senior could give me your helping hands?

feel lonely for using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:15:24 GMT

in my city, hong kong, autodesk seems control the market, most people use autocad, revit in construction.

which product ,revit or archicad, win in your country? for what reason that you keep using it?

Re: feel lonely for using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:35:53 GMT

Hi Angus,

IMO... I think that the differences of productivity between AC and Revit are irrelevant...
Its like having difficult to choose between a jaguar and a porsche...
You can deliver and communicate any project with AC or Revit...
What really matter is to choose one and go deep in it...
Use your inner feeling and choose...
And once you choose it don't look back...

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:03:26 GMT

Hi Angus,
I will like to tell you my experience with Archicad:
I have been using Archicad since version 6.5 and in my office all my draftsman used to work on Autocad and I didn't care because I was having a lot of work, but the I realized the tremendous amount of time the draftsman spent on a project (me having worked on Archicad) and more on changes.
I then decided to cut people off and kept only the draftsmans that wanted to learn to use Archicad and they learned through the training courses from Graphisoft in a week!
I am having more work than before and finish complete projects with documents in less than half time I was spending with Autocad.
Autocad is a great software, but is is not for architects.
I hope this answers your doubts,
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!
Mario

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:14 GMT

angus wrote:
ArchiCAD is a useful software for me , but since i have used it only a short period, when i introduce it to my friend, they ask me some question which i can't answer.

1. Is it archicad only for architect? how do it cooperate with surveyor, engineer, etc.......?

It is primarily for Architects but I have known others to use it. Collaboration is quite easy for 2D drawings. 3D collaboration is more difficult whatever software you are using.

2. i know archicad can draw 2d and import details from dwg file, but does it mean the draftman still need AutoCAD for modifying the details? because on my own, i really hope archicad to replace other 2d/3d cad software.

ArchiCAD has excellent 2D drafting capabilities. Better than AutoCAD in some ways. There is no need to use AutoCAD to finish any drawings.

3. ArchiCAD is a BIM software, and will it be the trend of architectural drawings? because in my country, it is still a very new thing that people even don't know what it is.

BIM is the latest buzzword and has more to do with construction coordination, integrated project delivery, etc. than it does with the practice of Architecture. No software is really BIM all by itself but only in so far as it can interoperate with other programs to model and simulate the complete design-construction-maintenance processes. It will become more and more necessary for Architects to plug into this process and use building modeling software. Of course virtual building has big advantages in the design process with or without BIM.

Re: feel lonely for using archicad

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:31:14 GMT

Braza wrote:
Hi Angus,

IMO... I think that the differences of productivity between AC and Revit are irrelevant...
Its like having difficult to choose between a jaguar and a porsche...
You can deliver and communicate any project with AC or Revit...
What really matter is to choose one and go deep in it...
Use your inner feeling and choose...
And once you choose it don't look back...

thanks

but does revit export dwg file better?(although i know dwg is a dump)...while i've tried export dwg file in archicad, but in autocad viewer open it, some lines become not match..........

i think my city always concern about autocad........even our housing authority

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:06:14 GMT

thanks Matthew and Recailo

in my city , so less amount of people using archicad, the majority of people think autocad is much better, easy and fast.

but i think they are afraid to learn new software, i admit that learn archicad need more time than autocad and i think which is reasonable.

they are very fast in using the command in autocad but they are actually slow in documentation.

furthermore
i hope more user here share what they think about archicad to me. for me to convince them. at the same time, revit seems to be our enemy, because autodesk seems have owned the main market here......-.-"

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:59:06 GMT

angus wrote:
But does revit export dwg file better?(although i know dwg is a dump)...while i've tried export dwg file in archicad, but in autocad viewer open it, some lines become not match..........

Of course Revit will export dwg better... Its an AutoDesk SW...
But ArchiCAD can fairly export good dwg files...
You just have to sit down for a day or two...
Read the reference manual...
And create a custom dwg export configuration...

angus wrote:
i think my city always concern about autocad........even our housing authority

Fair enought... Just use your dwg exporter or publish a pdf set of your drawings and they will be very happy housing authorities...

Re: Questions about using archicad

TomWaltz — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:57:38 GMT

Braza wrote:
angus wrote:
But does revit export dwg file better?(although i know dwg is a dump)...while i've tried export dwg file in archicad, but in autocad viewer open it, some lines become not match..........
Of course Revit will export dwg better... Its an AutoDesk SW...

By that logic, shouldn't Archicad be able to read Vectorworks?

Re: Questions about using archicad

Djordje — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 04:01:18 GMT

Braza wrote:
Of course Revit will export dwg better... Its an AutoDesk SW...

Yeah ... a Corvette spare tyre fits any Chevy truck, right? Both are Chevy? 😉

Don't make statements like this, people might believe them.

Re: Questions about using archicad

Thomas Holm — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:31:15 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
By that logic, shouldn't Archicad be able to read Vectorworks?

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:42:09 GMT

Hey guys come on...
Didn't you see the wink?!...
I meant that a company like AutoDesk and its policy wouldn't buy another software and make it stand alone...

Edit: And besides this I was talking about better dwg export.
Anyway... Sorry for my potentially misunderstood statement.

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:38:04 GMT

Braza wrote:
Hey guys come on...
Didn't you see the wink?!...
I meant that a company like AutoDesk and its policy wouldn't buy another software and make it stand alone...

Edit: And besides this I was talking about better dwg export.
Anyway... Sorry for my potentially misunderstood statement.

i think only autocad can only dwg correctly,
even other autodesk software can't open it well

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:18:23 GMT

Angus lee wrote:"i think only autocad can only dwg correctly",
Correctly for what?
At least at my relatively beginner level, I get all I need out of dwgs in AC.
As you want more features or complexity you need more sophistication in the translator and usage.
Which is probably true of all software. So hang on>>>>
It's gonna be a long strange trip............But we'll get there.
Bier

Re: Questions about using archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:16:02 GMT

Bier wrote:
Angus lee wrote:"i think only autocad can only dwg correctly",
Correctly for what?
At least at my relatively beginner level, I get all I need out of dwgs in AC.
As you want more features or complexity you need more sophistication in the translator and usage.
Which is probably true of all software. So hang on>>>>
It's gonna be a long strange trip............But we'll get there.
Bier

because i can't export a dwg well before, now i can.

and what the problem i have now is the line miss the line weight