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grid element tool

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:48:54 GMT

I place a column line with the grid element tool. Once placed I cannot stretch. The stretch option does not show up in the pet palette. Anyone have a clue why this would happen? Thanks in advance

Re: grid element tool

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:40:12 GMT

Is the Grid Element grouped with one or more other Grid Elements?
If they are and Groups are not suspended, the Move Node button will not appear in the Pet Palette, you will see only 5 icons in the Pet Palette.
If you suspend Groups, the six, Move Node button appears and you can stretch Grid Elements.

Re: grid element tool

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:12:49 GMT

Hi Laszlo! Deleted all grid elements. Have grouping toggled in suspend mode. Draw new grid element. I get 6 pet palette options including the move button. With the move button I am only allowed to stagger not stretch....hmmmm

Re: grid element tool

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 01:18:55 GMT

Out of the two purple diamond shaped hotspots drag the one closer to the end of the Element, that is what is used for stretching. The other one is used for staggering.

Re: grid element tool

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:15:00 GMT

I get only the stagger option from the purple nodes at both ends. Can we say I have a bug? ArchiCAD 17 USA 6004 Win64 FULL

thanks

Re: grid element tool

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:52:38 GMT

Cary wrote:
I get only the stagger option from the purple nodes at both ends. Can we say I have a bug? ArchiCAD 17 USA 6004 Win64 FULL

You're grabbing the wrong editable (diamond) hotspot... ambiguity over Laszlo's use of "closer to the end". See the Help here:
http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-17-int-reference-guide/documentation/annotation/the-grid-tool/editing-a-grid-element/

The hotspot at the far end, near the ID bubble gives you 'stagger' to stagger the bubble. (Note the Help has the wrong icon in the pet palette... at least for the Mac, I see a 4 headed arrow icon, standard 'move' icon.)

The hotspot inside of that ... to the end of the internal line ... is what stretches the grid line itself.

Re: grid element tool

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:10:01 GMT

Thanks Karl. I don't get 4 purple nodes as shown in the help center link only 2. Those 2 occur where line segment meets circle marker. Those 2 only stagger. Is there a setting somewhere that is causing the other 2 nodes not to appear?

Re: grid element tool

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:48:37 GMT

Just copied a grid element over from ArchiCAD 14 and it works fine.

Re: grid element tool

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 18:04:15 GMT

Strange. Is the standard 17 library loaded, and you applied the update to the library last year? (Help > Check for Updates will let you know if the library is up to date.)

The grid marker is a library part, so that's the only thing I can think of to explain seeing only 2 vs 4 editable hotspots.

Using the default US template (verifies issue is in a project and not in the system) - I see two hotspots as shown in the attached on the end of grid lines that have labels. Unlabeled ends only have the length stretch hotspot.

Re: grid element tool

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 18:05:55 GMT

If you select the problematic Grid Element, what is the Staggering value in the Floor Plan panel of its Settings Dialog? If it is very low (almost zero), the two hotspots will be so close to each other that they will not be discernible, unless you zoom in very very close. In that case you will only be able to stagger, but not stretch.

Re: grid element tool

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:18:53 GMT

ArchiCAD standard library most current. Laszlo got it.....my staggering was set to zero.....hmmm don't remember doing that but I do all sorts of things. Thanks for your help.