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creating vertical weatherboards..

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:27:45 GMT

i should make it known that i am a relatively newcomer to archicad, so the answer could be in front of me - i would just not know it.
i was wondering how one might go about creating wall profiles with vertical weatherboards visible in 3D. I noticed that the standard walls accessories do not accommodate such a thing and it would be quite an exercise to use complex column profiles when it comes to windows and openings.
Any help would be appreciated..

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:08:06 GMT

See if this is what you're looking for:

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:25:00 GMT

thanks for the help, that's the material, as i understand?
i don't think that's what i'm after. i want to model the vertical profile of weatherboards,preferably as part of the wall. so that it can be detailed in sections/details and what not.
ie. so that the articulation of the boards are visible in 2D and 3D, much like you would with horizontal weatherboards in a complex wall profile. i don't want to just use a fill or apply a surface material that "fakes" this.

i'm sorry if that wasn't made clear.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:55:18 GMT

This thread describes several techniques ranging from SEOs to Polywalls to Library parts -

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=21854

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 15:29:32 GMT

Did you get anywhere with your query about vertical cladding @am_jpt ?

Attached is an example from an experiment I'm doing with the curtain wall tool

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Carstenem — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 23:25:01 GMT

There is an easier way + as you mentioned it would be better to use the wall then you can insert windows/doors.

Have a look at my tutorial of how to create a cladding. It is the same principal for what you are after. Hope this helps.

Cheers Carsten

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Lingwisyer — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:10:45 GMT

There was an object made by Hmooslechner that could associate to your wall and be assigned a complex profile to array along it. It was in German and was made a few versions back and I'm not sure if there was an English version or whether it has been updated since... His video regarding it can be found on youtube.

Ling.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Carstenem — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:16:29 GMT

Ling, this is awesome and I even understand it as I speak German

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Lingwisyer — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 03:47:22 GMT

Well, if you can still get access to the object, you can report whether it is still usable.

Hmooslechner wrote:
Or if Heimo Mooslechner is still around here.

Ling.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Szabolcs Miko — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:00:10 GMT

We can also create a cladding using the Railing Tool, the advantage is, that we can make it associative to other construction elements, therefore, it would adapt to any design changes.
This is a rough example, a fence that I create, but it could be a good example for what you are trying to achieve.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Szabolcs Miko — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:58:27 GMT

Actually, I just tried, it would be also possible and better to use the new CW tool in AC22 (it would be a bit more elaborate but still you can also make it with the old Tool if necessary).
Check the attached pictures. I used two curtain walls, why? Because we have to think about the frames intersecting with each other, and it's also better performance wise.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Karl Griffith — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:17:23 GMT

I think this is the thread for the GDL object

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=58432

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Carstenem — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 22:10:25 GMT

I contacted Heimo and he gave me this link. It's a AC21 file including the library part which will be associated to the walls you select through - design extras - Accessories - wall Accessories.

There is some stuff missing in the download file as it is not a .pla just ignore, download link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf0ya8nxvww3nb2/Fassadenpaneel-Teilungen%208.bpn?dl=0

Video on how to use it ( in german but it's pretty straight forward, you can follow without sound )

To get it into your ARCHICAD file and use it just save it out of the library from the download file then open your ARCHICAD file and load it in, see image attached.

MANY THANKS TO HEIMO MOOSLECHNER !

Cheers Carsten

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Lingwisyer — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 01:17:43 GMT

Szabolcs wrote:
We can also create a cladding using the Railing Tool

The issue with doing this is when you come across wall openings. In these cases, you will need to convert your railing into a morph then SOE it as I do not recall being able to SOE a railing object. At this point, using a railing becomes less of a convenience than using a Complex Profile straight.

Szabolcs wrote:
Actually, I just tried, it would be also possible and better to use the new CW tool in AC22 (it would be a bit more elaborate but still you can also make it with the old Tool if necessary).
Check the attached pictures. I used two curtain walls, why? Because we have to think about the frames intersecting with each other, and it's also better performance wise.

Can you apply a profile to the CW panel? Or are you using the frames as your cladding surface?

Ling.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Szabolcs Miko — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:58:12 GMT

In AC22 we can use profiled panels, but that's for the edges not the panel itself.

HOWEVER, if the Panel uses a Surface which has a vectorial hatching and a texture with a proper bump and displacement channel, we could reduce our number of polygons and achieve the same result.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Lingwisyer — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 01:12:01 GMT

Szabolcs wrote:
HOWEVER, if the Panel uses a Surface which has a vectorial hatching and a texture with a proper bump and displacement channel, we could reduce our number of polygons and achieve the same result.

I believe the aim was a way to create cladding what can be easily detailed, in which case the use of a texture does not meet the requirements. In the grand scheme of things I might be better to leave the model using textures and just detail it manually in 2d due to model complexity.

Ling.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Barry Kelly — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 01:19:01 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
In the grand scheme of things I might be better to leave the model using textures and just detail it manually in 2d due to model complexity.

Yes.
Even if modelled correctly in 3D, the details from that model may still not be accurate enough.
Plus depending on how much panelling you have and how detailed it is, you will be adding a lot more polygons into you model size.
If you can get away with a texture for presentation and a hatch for documentation on your surfaces, then i would recommend that, and make your own details.

Barry.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Carstenem — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 01:53:52 GMT

BIM Barry BIM ! Just kidding that's probably the way to go to make life easier in documentation.

Re: creating vertical weatherboards..

Lingwisyer — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 06:09:54 GMT

Carstenem wrote:
BIM Barry BIM !

All about the information, less about the model. The layer/wall representing your cladding can contain all the required information. Still BIM!

Ling.