topic Re: schedule text size bug? in Documentation

schedule text size bug?

Erika Epstein — Fri, 19 May 2023 14:06:22 GMT

Hi,
Following Matthew's tip, I successfully resized my schedule rows.
Unfortunately the text when I place a schedule is still larger (taller) than the rows.

In the attached jpeg you can see on the left 7 pt text I typed in next to the placed schedule. The schedule has the text set for 7 pt. Clearly it is not staying 7 pt.

Has anyone else come across this problem?

I can work around this by making the pt size '3'. Is the text actually in mm and not pts as it says?

Hmm...As I write this it seems this kind of problem was mentioned elsewhere...

Can anyone shed some light on this?
thanks

Re: schedule text size bug?

TomWaltz — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:34:04 GMT

How tall are your rows set?

Generally they should be about 3x the size of your text.

Re: schedule text size bug?

Erika Epstein — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:04:24 GMT

Tom,
The rows are 1/4" high.
In the I/S Shcedules settings on the format tab,
hen I input the font height as though it were sized in mm, not points as in the I/S, the text in archicad is scaled correctly.
I think this is a bug.

Re: schedule text size bug?

TomWaltz — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:47:45 GMT

That's kind of odd, since looking at my IS, the units are all in points, not some points and some inches as yours is.

Re: schedule text size bug?

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:02:17 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
That's kind of odd, since looking at my IS, the units are all in points, not some points and some inches as yours is.

I see points and inches in 9 on both PC and Mac. In 8.1, I only saw points.

Karl

Re: schedule text size bug?

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:59:54 GMT

I reproduced the bugs you guys have been reporting: changing the vertical spacing with "All Text" gives totally bogus results ... immediately the field changes to a smaller value, but then after updating, it is smaller yet.

Setting 'value' text point size to 2.75 and vertical row spacing to 0.25 inches as Erika did gave acceptable result for me. However, as she notes, the 2.75 points there have no relationship to 2.75 points placed by the text tool! It seems to match 7 points with the text tool for me (using Arial).

Also, the vertical sizes seem to be very close, but not exact. For example, a 1" header height at 1/4" scale should be 4'-0" but is somewhat less.

Workarounds for text size are just trial and error for now, although perhaps multiplying desired point size by 0.4 will work well enough.

These are definitely bugs that need to be addressed. Want me to report it with reference to this thread, or have you guys already done so?

Karl

PS Did not test on Mac, just XP.

Re: schedule text size bug?

Erika Epstein — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 08:32:25 GMT

Karl wrote:
I reproduced the bugs you guys have been reporting:

These are definitely bugs that need to be addressed. Want me to report it with reference to this thread, or have you guys already done so?

Karl

PS Did not test on Mac, just XP.

thanks for checking Karl,
I'll let you report this as you have a direct link to bug central

Re: schedule text size bug?

Chazz — Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:24:27 GMT

I know I'm coming in late but I just stumbled across this bug myself and it appears to be irreversible and, in my case, somewhat catastrophic. I post this for the benefit of future travelers to these waters....

The workaround I found is to look at the interactive schedule using the object settings dialog and set the size of he schedule object to manual and manipulate it that way. This gives you something that is al least usable. Interestingly this method also appears reset the bogus values in text size box and make them stick. Not sure about this.

Whatever the case I think GS should forget everything that have done to date with schedules and calculation features. Fire whoever designed it and start again from scratch. It is just too awful to be fixed (the non-WYSIWYG interface of the 'interactive' schedule alone is simply maddening). We need something that is intuitive, fast, stable and works as it's supposed to. All in favor say "Aye".

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Re: schedule text size bug?

Erika Epstein — Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:03:57 GMT

Chazz,
Relax,
Take a deep breath.

It sounds like you are opening the schedule as a library part (cmd/ctrl +T).
When you are fixing a schedule, select it and then go to the I/S settings and correct it there. While the font size says it is in points, think mm. Also, as Matthew mentioned, on the format tab of the preview settings box, you need to set each line of the "schedule item" drop down tab individually. Once set it should hold for that archicad file.

I have noticed that for each archicad file I am having to redo those settings.
Annoying, but always better to be able to get something to work somehow than not at all.

Erika