topic Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding in Documentation

Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 08:09:22 GMT

We are using composite fills to represent half-log siding on a stud wall and it looks spectacular in Plan view.

For 3D views, we make the wall a log wall, with flats on the inside - add the log material to the outside and the painted wall to the inside. The exterior views look excellent.

Section views suck.

For those of yuo who have used the log feature and have used the flattened side log, you know that it leaves a niche in the wall at the stack height. This is not good.

I need a better idea of how to represent half log siding that looks good in ALL views.

We WERE using a seperate log wall on the outsuide of an acutal stud wall, but the windows don't cut through BOTH walls so we are stuck putting in dozens of 'empty' windows. This, (short of further adjsutments) causes problems with edits, moves, fine tuning, and of course - window schedules.

So who can give me a better way of representing half log siding in ALL views. A material won't cut it because it will show flat in section and in elevation.

Please post ANY ideas that you may have in hopes of getting this to work better. Thanks.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

__archiben — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:20:38 GMT

cadimage's accessory tools have a log function (amongst many many other fantastic features) . . . .

some 3D options ...........

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

__archiben — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:22:04 GMT

section display .............

(you can set air gap, log size (diameter), thickness used as a cladding, set-out point, materials, 2D fills & pens, etc . . .

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

__archiben — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:24:14 GMT

the wall builder interface for logs ...............

(and cadimage's 'accessories pack' can be found at: http://www.cadimagetools.com/home.php?page=products&productID=168 )

HTH
~/archiben

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

__archiben — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:29:30 GMT

and i just re-read your post again:

because this object is an accessory, it recognises any windows and doors that you have placed in your stud wall already and allows you to choose facing elements for those windows and doors that will be built as a part of the cladding . . .

(it's good! )

~/archiben

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:42:51 GMT

well it looks like that is what I'll be after then. Now to the boss for money...... Anyone have any other ideas?

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

__archiben — Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:54:59 GMT

just because it's really easy to put something like that together very quickly, i did the attached. 2-3 minutes. it took longer to collage it in photoshop. bear in mind that i wasn't too fussy with the more detailed settings of door/window sections . . .

it's a tool that is incredibly useful. it's changed my whole approach to archiCAD - i simply model the structural depth in walls, slabs and roofs now and then use the cadimage accessories to clad it. no messing with loads of archiCAD walls to try and achieve claddings and linings.

job done. and for it's price it'll save you money by the end of the week!

cheers
~/archiben

ps - here's the link to the downloadable PDF manual:
http://www.cadimagetools.com/dataDownloads/Accessories%202005-08-01.pdf

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:17:38 GMT

I would have to second the CadImage Accessory Tool recommendation. It has many features that are well worth the price of admission. It can behave a bit quirky at times, so be forewarned. You may need to erase the part, and re-apply it again. It is very powerful, and presents wonderfully in sections/perspectives/elevations.
If they could only get the fascia to do a perpendicular cut, I would be very satisfied.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Thomas Holm — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:09:38 GMT

How much does (for example, the log wall vs. a plain flat wall) slow down rendering?

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:20:59 GMT

These log siding walls are great if a contractor is going to make the corners but what happens when you are using a full log tail? This is the dilema our design team is facing. Attached is an attempt to visually show what our log siding looks like in the corners.
This allows a customer the full log exterior look with the added ability to frame the inside.
The problem is we can't use one wall for this. and when we use two walls, we either have to add empty openings in the log which doesn't allow our windows/doors to look quite right, and it adds complications to our sections as well. Is there anyway to just add an adjustable full log tail to the ends of these walls using the same tool?
Thanks for any help

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

David Pacifico — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:42:00 GMT

Another possiblity. Not perfect, but it does do half log siding with extensions.

LINK

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Thomas Holm — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:53:13 GMT

Simply wrong. You can't build a log house like that! Every other wall has to be 1/2 log adjusted in height. If not, the tail chain will simply fall off.

On the other hand, if you model this realistically, it shouldn't be a big problem. No doors will ever start from the bottom of the wall/first log, because that would just cut the whole wall off.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

David Pacifico — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:23:44 GMT

Your right of course.
Second parameter is: Start with a half log

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Thomas Holm — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:26:40 GMT

Fine! But the you should change that picture, if you're selling the software.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:43:04 GMT

Why dont you try to use prfile-manager?

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:34:49 GMT

Quote
"Why dont you try to use prfile-manager?"

Because the profile manager only allows for perfectly straight walls. It only puts a contour on that face. What I need is to jog into the log. What happens is we notch the log so we have 1' tails. Then we saw the log in half from the other end up to the middle of the notch. Once this is complete we cut half of the log off so you end up with something like

TOP VIEW
____________
|____i-----------' <----Cut throught the log
^..........^--------Interior (framed wall not shown)
Full log tail

Intersecting another at 90 degrees using only two walls is what I am attempting to do.

I might have to face the truth that it is not possible to do this with just two intersecting walls.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:01:01 GMT

You dont need to use wall by profile-manager consequently.
You can use thie programmed wall just where you need as wall or as beam etc.
For the round wall we must use profiler or sometihing like that.
It is very sad story.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:58:12 GMT

I guess my real problem is that I cannot place windows and doors into an object. I have created exactly what I need in GDL but when saved as an object, even though it was made using the Xwall command, You cannot place window or doors in it. Is there a file extension or a way to save a GDL created wall so one could place windows and doors in it? I'm thinking that would have to be done by editing the actual wall tool itself which I have no desire to do. Thanks for any help once again.

Re: Section Views of Half Log Siding

Djordje — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:10:56 GMT

Demetious wrote:
I guess my real problem is that I cannot place windows and doors into an object. I have created exactly what I need in GDL but when saved as an object, even though it was made using the Xwall command, You cannot place window or doors in it. Is there a file extension or a way to save a GDL created wall so one could place windows and doors in it? I'm thinking that would have to be done by editing the actual wall tool itself which I have no desire to do. Thanks for any help once again.

No way.

Except: make the walls the exact size as your doors and windows, so that only doors and windows show, and subtract them from the object using SEO.