topic Printing Gridlines in Documentation

Printing Gridlines

Seiss Wagner — Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:54:42 GMT

I made a dumb mistake and upgraded ArchiCad 9 to build 2018 last week. Today I opened Plotmaker to print my project, due tomorrow, and all the plan sheets appear correctly, but when plotted, are covered by the display of grid lines. The plotter is an HP DesignJet 600 running through an HP JetDirect. Yes, "hide all gridlines that insect with drawing" is selected. These same files printed fine before the "Hot Fix"!! Other job files that plotted correctly before are now also plotting the grid matrix.

Is anyone else having this problem, does anyone have an idea what the problem might be, does anyone know how to fix it? Is there a way to get the last version of Plotmaker back, will it run with 2018?

Printing works correctly, its only the plot files that are showing the background grids.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Anonymous — Tue, 17 May 2005 11:14:41 GMT

I noticed some drawings in our office the other day that had the gridlines flowing through the drawings, but I assumed someone had just made a mistake and had the gridlines turned on. I will see if this is a problem in our office tomorrow.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Seiss Wagner — Wed, 18 May 2005 08:01:23 GMT

MILLARD -

Thanks for your reply, please let me know what you find out. I called ArchiCad support this morning, but of couse, my problems are not their problems, meaning they have not called back today.

I went to the orginal install disk and custom installed only PlotMaker. Thank goodness, all is now plotting as it should, no grid lines over the placed drawings. However, I am not sure of the long term consequnces of using PlotMaker 1812, with ArchiCad 2018 files.

One of the reasons I hate upgrades is the they seem to cause as many problems as they fix. For example, Tiger, which I have avoided loading with ArchiCad untile I finish my current work. When I loaded the "Hot Fix" 2018 I foolishly did not consider that Graphisoft can't be depended on to fully test it's fixes.

That appears to be our job. Now I will have to wait three months for the next fixed version of PlotMaker and hope they have fixed the fix, that broke what didn't needed to be fixed.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Greg Kmethy — Thu, 19 May 2005 10:57:51 GMT

Seiss,

I am sad to confirm this bug. Thanks for reporting it.

Re: Printing Gridlines

James Murray — Thu, 19 May 2005 13:46:16 GMT

I have it too. Really ugly.

Unfortunately I can't envision going back to the previous 9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0v1 since I can't tolerate the disappearing labels in section/elevation.

I guess I will try downdating PM, though it makes me nervous too. I would like to hear some expert opinion on this practice.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Seiss Wagner — Thu, 19 May 2005 17:36:40 GMT

GKMETHY -

Thanks for taking notice, I am impressed. However, until the bug can be repaired, what is Graphisofts advice on, "Down-dating" PlotMaker while continuing to use "HotFix" AC 2018. I am presently down-dated to PM 1812, would it be better to update to PM 1965?

I should point out to others who might be looking for a fix, that I have not disturb the integrity of PM 2018, that file is still nested in my AC9-2018 applications folder. Instead, I have created a new folder containing only PM 1812 and its associated files. This folder, although it is completely independent, is using the same preference and cache files as established by the original installation of AC9. So far, all seems to be running smoothly.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 23 May 2005 13:57:07 GMT

Since there are some fixes in PlotMaker 2018 that you might need, I suggest to use the 'old' PlotMaker only for plotting. Do all other work in 2018.

Rename the existing ArchiCAD folder to 'ArchiCAD 9 - 2018' then install the original copy of ArchiCAD into a folder named 'ArchiCAD 9 - 1812'

Re: Printing Gridlines

Seiss Wagner — Tue, 24 May 2005 07:39:58 GMT

GERGELY -

Thanks, I am basically following your advice. I labeled my 1812 PlotMaker "PlotMaker-Old" and am using it only for plotting, while I continue to do all my layout work in the 2018 version of PlotMaker.

Re: Printing Gridlines

James Murray — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:16:34 GMT

It appears this issue remains in the 2045 update.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT

James wrote:
It appears this issue remains in the 2045 update.

Re: Printing Gridlines

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:16:19 GMT

I just had this same issue pop up today. Has there been any more information on this since the last post in June? Has anyone found any other way around the problem other than installing a separate version of plotmaker on your computer to print these files?

I agree that hotfixes that cause more problems than they fix are a huge problem. As a new user I am inclined to install all of the hotfixes whether or not I have encountered any specific problems because there are many problems that I don't think I would recognize. I knew that Microsoft had problems like this, but I was hoping that Graphisoft would not.

Thanks for your help.

-Aaron Jobson