topic Re: Layers/Lineweights in Documentation

Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Jan 2025 14:24:59 GMT

Is there anyway to select all objects in a layer? It's extremely inconvenient to turn all layers off except for the one whose lineweights I want to affect.

Also if there are different objects in one layer, and I select all to change the lineweights, will it work? Like if I've selected a wall, an object, and a slab, sometimes it only changes the attributed of the last one I selected. I think.

Still trying to figure the pens out.
Thanks

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 May 2008 06:57:48 GMT

read about the Quick Layers pallet

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Thomas Holm — Thu, 01 May 2008 07:47:44 GMT

Use the Edit > Find & Select... command to select by different criteria. Extremely useful.

Then, if you want to change pens on different kinds of items in one go, use the Edit > Element Settings > Edit Selection Set... command.

But remember that this command doesn't work on library objects, windows and doors etc that are set to use pens selected in their own parameters (this is the default). If they have similar parameter sets, you can select a bunch of objects and change them at once, or you can use the syringe tool to inject new settings into them. Read the Help files!

And BTW, in Archicad there is no Bylayer constraint. You're free to use any number of pens in any layer at once.
A pen has a lineweight and a color. You set them in the Options > Element Attributes > Pens & Colors dialog.
You collect them in pen sets. It's possible to complicate this very much, you can use different pen sets for layouts, for printing, for export etc. I prefer to simplify it and standardize on one Autocadish pen set. Makes life simpler when collaborating with consultants.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:10:52 GMT

Interesting.... thanks a lot, that definitely helped.

Awesome

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:57:04 GMT

Actually, I'm having problems still.

I'm changing the thickness of the line, but it doesn't really seem to be making a difference when I print it to pdf / print it out.

I tried the thinnest lineweights and the thickest ones provided for in the dialogue box, but I'm not getting any differentiation.

Help!

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Dwight — Thu, 01 May 2008 22:42:18 GMT

YOu'll want to set your view option to true lineweight from hairline.

There is also a print dialog setting for this.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Thu, 01 May 2008 23:55:58 GMT

Did that, no dice.

See lower right image in attached file. The wall is set to color 11 black 5.67 pt. The tables and chairs are set to color 19 black, 0.25 pt.

They have the same weight! I'm pretty sure I did a thorough job - I edited these settings in the hammer option next to the layer popup, and in each object's parameter and floor plan settings.

Help save my project from imminent doom!
Thanks

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Dwight — Fri, 02 May 2008 00:29:40 GMT

Are you printing this through a layout? Is so, layouts have independent pen sets.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Fri, 02 May 2008 02:22:52 GMT

That's very inconvenient.

=|

I mean I guess it's okay.... I edited out all the text in my site plan. The only thing with text now is the section and elevation marker heads.

Is there some sort of easy way for me to edit lineweights in Layout mode?

I'm used to plotting from layout/paperspace equivalent... maybe there's a thread that already exists for this thing. I have T minus 23 hours till turn in

Or maybe if you could explain it in a very straightforward manner... :] thanks so much for the help

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Fri, 02 May 2008 02:46:54 GMT

tdellaqu

We have one pen set for "modelspace" (to use AutoCAD terminology) which is full colour with appropriate pen thicknesses (I tend to work in True Lineweight most of the time but some don't), and a second pen set with the same pen thicknesses but with appropriate pens (pens 1-10 especially) set to print black for Layouts (paperspace). These pen sets cover most of our needs. You can assign pen sets to specific drawings placed on layouts too, if you need to. I also have a third pen set for electrical plans and the like where wall elements etc show as thinner than normal black lines and electrical items show bold.

I know others here have far more complex systems, but this seems to cover most of our requirements.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Fri, 02 May 2008 02:59:44 GMT

Ok that makes sense. So how do you correspond the layout pen weights with what you design in the "modelspace"?

I just did a couple test plots with layout pen set archicad 9 and arch pens black. There is lineweight difference now, but the two pen sets appear to have exactly the same outcome.

Thanks for clarifying

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:22:41 GMT

You can just duplicate the model pen set, then amend as necessary and "Store As" the new Layout pen set. Assign the new pen set in Layout space.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Anonymous — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:45:10 GMT

OHHHHHH.

Okay. Thanks so much. Time to go churn my plots out.

Re: Layers/Lineweights

Thomas Holm — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:50:51 GMT

tdellaqu wrote:
Ok that makes sense. So how do you correspond the layout pen weights with what you design in the "modelspace"?

I just did a couple test plots with layout pen set archicad 9 and arch pens black. There is lineweight difference now, but the two pen sets appear to have exactly the same outcome.

"tdellaqu", you have asked a good many questions now. Some work in the tutorials, a trip to the help files, and a read or two in the manual would do you good, as well as reading the whole answer you get before you post a new question.

You can set your layout to use the same penset as your model view if you like. Just select it in the proper settings box. And there's a Hairline option in the Print dialog too, check that you're turned that off.