topic Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams in Documentation

True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Anonymous — Mon, 22 May 2023 22:03:20 GMT

I introduced this topic a couple of years ago but still have no solution.
Suggestions then involved cut & paste from the 3D window, which is not an ortho view so can't be used to dimension.
I created these beams with solid modelling so they show as sqare boxes with dotted lines in plan view.

I need to communicate the exact dimensions of the cuts to the guy with the beam on the sawhorses.

With sections, I get the "vertical" dimensions, including the notches (have to cut & paste to get the interior dotted lines & exterior solid lines in one sect/el).
But I need to get the dims on the "horizontal" measurements.
The only way to do this (I think) is to lay the object on it's side in plan & use the sect/el tool.
ROTx 90 does this if you want to edit every beam, save a "laid-down" version, place them around the plan, add sect/els for each.....

Like the RCP issue, it gets a bit nuts & moves away from one model.
Anyone with ideas, please?

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:32:58 GMT

ROTx 90 gives this so I guess you also need to rotate the slope out but I still got the next one by rotating the lines in a detail.

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:28:24 GMT

This is from a detail window after saving the object, ROTx 90, placing the new object in plan, setting up new sect/el, making a detail from the sect/el and rotating the lines to the horizontal.

Can we not see an object like this from the top & bottom without the pain?

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:32:05 GMT

This one was easy from one section.

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Petros Ioannou — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:49:56 GMT

I am not sure if this helps, but sometimes you can create a section (an ortho side view) parallel to the element , open it and place the same object (using the object tool) inside the section. It will be placed as a 2d element. Then rotate it parallel to the inclined object and adjust its lenght by streching it.

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

David Maudlin — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:20:50 GMT

Walter wrote:
Suggestions then involved cut & paste from the 3D window, which is not an ortho view so can't be used to dimension.

Walter:

The 3D Window can be set to orthogonal views. Go to Image>3D Projection Settings... and if the title bar of the dialog box says Perspective Settings, click on the Parallel Projections... button. In the Parallel Projection dialog box are 11 preset views (top down, bottom up, elevation, various axonometrics) as well as a custom option where you can set the angles of the axis and their proportional lengths. This view can be copied from the 3D Window and pasted into the plan, section, or detail window for adding dimensions and notes.

Hope this helps.

David

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Ralph Wessel — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:17:04 GMT

Walter wrote:
The only way to do this (I think) is to lay the object on it's side in plan & use the sect/el tool.
ROTx 90 does this if you want to edit every beam, save a "laid-down" version, place them around the plan, add sect/els for each.....
Like the RCP issue, it gets a bit nuts & moves away from one model.
Anyone with ideas, please?

FrameWright was designed to solve this problem (and other framing issues). You can freely rotate assemblies in 3D, with the option of instantly restoring it to its true position in the model.

Take a look at at http://www.encina.co.uk/framewright_pro.html

There is an article about FrameWright on the GS site at http://www.graphisoft.com/community/success_stories/oakframe.html

Re: True Ortho Views of Solid Modelled Beams

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:07:09 GMT

The 3D Window can be set to orthogonal views. Go to Image>3D Projection Settings... and if the title bar of the dialog box says Perspective Settings, click on the Parallel Projections... button. In the Parallel Projection dialog box are 11 preset views (top down, bottom up, elevation, various axonometrics) as well as a custom option where you can set the angles of the axis and their proportional lengths. This view can be copied from the 3D Window and pasted into the plan, section, or detail window for adding dimensions and notes.

Thanx 4 the tips.
Changing the axises to 0, 90, 180 make the views true ortho & that`s what I need. Still can`t `lay the beams down`without GDL but that`s a luxury.
Again, ACTalk to the rescue