topic Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout in Documentation

Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Mon, 22 May 2023 22:00:37 GMT

We are having some issues with dimensions in layout windows on Teamwork project. One team mmeber set up layouts for interior elevations, everything appears correct. Another team member opens layout and all of the windows are sized differently due to dimensions in the views appearing oddly. Some strings are to random points in space. Even if all are selected and updated it is still wrong. You have to open the source view (where all of the dimensions are indeed correct) and ten go back to the layout and update the view again, then they revert to their correct state.

Anyone else getting this. This is a big problem for us as a junior member of the team may be asked to print out drawings and may not notice the mistake.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Erika Epstein — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:00:49 GMT

kevin wrote:
. Another team member opens layout and all of the windows are sized differently due to dimensions in the views appearing oddly. Some strings are to random points in space.

Kevin, a screen shot of what you describe might be helpful.
I am wondering if the views were not accidentally redefined.
You mentioned you are doing IE, are you using the IE markers which can act up, or using the section tool?

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:32:57 GMT

Yes, we are experiencing the same problem. We have found that opening the view and then coming back to the layout fixes the dimensions. Set the view to manual update. I have reported it to Graphisoft.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:56:17 GMT

Yes we are trying the (insert sarcasm here) fantastic IE tool once again. And yes it seems like if one team member makes modifications to the elevation, it triggers it to go all weird, and you have to open the source view and then go back to the layout. Just updating does nothing.

I will post an image once it happens again.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:46:30 GMT

See attached, I just combined a few screen shots so the scales are off but you can see the problem. Left view is layout , after updating, center is viewing source view, and right is going back to layout and updating, no modifications done between the steps. Note the bottom string of dimensions. This is a simple one, gets worse in other cases.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:09:49 GMT

MORE DIMENSION WEIRDNESS...

Same Teamwork project, when looking at some interior elevations on computer of User A the dimensions are correct. In this case correct means that a string of dims of base cabinets have all been modified for custom text, in this case they are all "EQ" When User B looks at the elevations, they all show the Measured Value.

This is true of both the layout and the actual source view. When the text is selected in the source view of User A it shows in the info box that it is custom text, for User B it shows as measured. Both Users have done S/R. Neither User has any of the info in the elevation reserved.

See following images.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:10:54 GMT

Image for User B

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:57:27 GMT

Kevin,

I can confirm that GRAPHISOFT is aware of both of these problems. It more than likely happens to dimensions that have been edited by two or more users (although probably that is not the only contributing factor). If the elements are not likely to change, you might consider setting the dimensions static, until this is fixed. We handle this issue with priority.

Greg

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Dennis Lee — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:33:51 GMT

This is causing us a lot of problems. Can we have a fix soon?
This started happening to us when we added a third user to TW files.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

kevin b — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:38:26 GMT

I haven't heard anything more from them about it. It is a huge problem for us. I have also notice, in same project, that certain things that are dimensioned in the interior elevation window do not update when the model changes. So that if you say change the height of a piece of casework, making the change in the model or in the IE window, the dimension does not dynamically update, it acts like a static dimension.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Dennis Lee — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:57:38 GMT

That is depressing. This is a basic necessity for everyday work, and potentially a costly / embarassing error! GS, please address this issue ASAP Please!

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

bej — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:40 GMT

We are also experiencing all the same issues - in AC13 build 3826. Can you please confirm your AC version and build number? If we transfer the file to AC14 can we expect the same issues?

Cheers

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:26:22 GMT

Brendon,

Currently ArchiCAD 14 has the same issue, but we will soon release a Hotfix for ArchiCAD 14 that fixes this.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

bej — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:02:28 GMT

Thanks Gergely
Can I ask if there is a patch planned for AC13?

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:10:03 GMT

3826 was probably the last Hotfix for ArchiCAD 13.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:49:26 GMT

We are getting overwhelmed with this issue.

We have hundreds of drawings on our layouts consisting of dimensions and we need to publish our entire set TODAY. The dimension issue was discovered a few weeks ago and the team had been directed to make them static.

Now we have the inability to update our drawings UNLESS we go to each one, open the source view, close it, and then update before publishing. This is what we are doing to ensure all of our drawings on layout sheets are updated with the source view. In other words, neither the automatic or manual update from layout sheets are functioning correctly.

There just HAS to be a better work around to this. Is this our only choice? Hope someone can pitch in otherwise we risk missing out on a critical deadline.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:23:16 GMT

UPDATE - I saved the TW Project as a .pln file and as soon as I opened the .pln file, the dimensions on the layout sheet reverted to it's original (or UPDATED) position. Some dimensions had to be reapplied and be made static but at least the drawing on the layout sheet updated afterwards.

So, this is my work around for the time being - have all users send in their changes, one user will receive all and save it as a .pln.

From that .pln file - we will do our publishing since the automatic and/or manual updating seems to work correctly with the drawings on the layout sheets.

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Dennis Lee — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:46:11 GMT

You should contact technical support. They will have a solution for you.
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/USA.html

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

bej — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 01:56:33 GMT

Although it's not perfect, saving a PLN from the Teamwork file is a good workaround. Looking very much forward to that hotfix...

Re: Dimensions acting starnge in layout

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:18:31 GMT

ksymons19 wrote:
UPDATE - I saved the TW Project as a .pln file and as soon as I opened the .pln file, the dimensions on the layout sheet reverted to it's original (or UPDATED) position. Some dimensions had to be reapplied and be made static but at least the drawing on the layout sheet updated afterwards.

So, this is my work around for the time being - have all users send in their changes, one user will receive all and save it as a .pln.

From that .pln file - we will do our publishing since the automatic and/or manual updating seems to work correctly with the drawings on the layout sheets.

Is this version 14? Just tried it on a large 13 project and the dimension are still off, and the views still have to be opened for it to update. I was really hoping this would have been a usable workaround.