topic Re: elevation lineweight in Documentation

elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 01:13:58 GMT

Hi everyone,
I'm wondering how to set line weight for elevation.
I've done a forum search but could not find a right answer for my case.
It is this: I wanna set my wall outline in elevation bolder than my curtain wall lines. I've tried the property's setting of both but it doesnt come out right in elevation.
Attached is screen-shot.
Please help or help me with a link.
Many thanks for all.
Cheers,

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:22:15 GMT

i think this may involve some complex pen set issue.

you may simply trace again the outline via line tools

btw, nice design!!

Re: elevation lineweight

Thomas Holm — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:28:35 GMT

Set the item's Uncut pen to what you want, and turn off the elevation setting's Uniform pen for uncut items.

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:33:35 GMT

I wanna set my wall outline in elevation bolder than my curtain wall lines.

I think Uncut pen may be not suitable for this situation

Re: elevation lineweight

Dwight — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:40:33 GMT

Do you refer to the cheap draftsman's trick of outlining the building with a heavy line?

Re: elevation lineweight

Thomas Holm — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:33:28 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Do you refer to the cheap draftsman's trick of outlining the building with a heavy line?

Only expensive draftsmen did that.

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:41:30 GMT

tranthainguyen

have you show the line weight view?

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:58:41 GMT

Hi angus and all,
Thanks for your help.
I have a better understand of how to do it.
Yes I turned all the option True Lineweight. I can get control of Wall Pencolor (therefore, lineweight) in elevation. However I can't get control of curtain wall(window) pencolor (lineweight) in elevation. Do you know how to manipulate it ?

As for the Marked Distant Area, it works in its way, but still I can't get control/modify of the pencolor (lineweight). Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks in advance for your help.
NGUYEN

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:50:37 GMT

Try turning on the vectorial sun shadows. They give the elevation much better depth than line weights

Re: elevation lineweight

Djordje — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:37:17 GMT

tranthainguyen wrote:
However I can't get control of curtain wall(window) pencolor (lineweight) in elevation. Do you know how to manipulate it?

Set Uncut line pens to the desired colour.

Re: elevation lineweight

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:32:18 GMT

though the only way to get a bold outline of the building will be to trace with the line/poly line tool

Re: elevation lineweight

Djordje — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:17:30 GMT

Scott wrote:
though the only way to get a bold outline of the building will be to trace with the line/poly line tool

As the famous unlinker Duane tipped a long time ago, MagicWand also does the work ...

Re: elevation lineweight

Dwight — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:26:40 GMT

But that magic wand outline technique is a two-stepper, needing an outline to guide the path through space to complete itself - a box drawn with lines above and to the sides of the elevation does it.

Re: elevation lineweight

Ignacio Azpiazu — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:53:52 GMT

Philosophically, the manual heavy outline within the elevation (as opposed to the section outline pen, which is generated automatically by ArchiCAD) should be avoided: the same effect of separating the facade from the background can be obtained using material hatches, shadows, distant area options, eventually 2D background fills.

All of those don't need a single man-minute and look great; they would be too laborious for a pencil/pen drawing where the heavier outline would be a good cost-effective draftsman solution, with an ArchiCAD model it is the other way around.

Re: elevation lineweight

Dwight — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:01:47 GMT

Yes. We call the outline method a "Cheap Draftsman's Trick!!"

Re: elevation lineweight

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:58:37 GMT

Dwight wrote:
But that magic wand outline technique is a two-stepper, needing an outline to guide the path through space to complete itself - a box drawn with lines above and to the sides of the elevation does it.

Dwight -- can you illustrate what you are describing?

We use a medium pen for Uncut Elements, and a fine pen for Marked Distant Area, adding heavy line/polylines where needed for emphasis -- far from ideal, but the easiest way to get the results we need.

Re: elevation lineweight

Dwight — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:09:38 GMT

The idea is to get the outline of the building elevation traced in all its complexity automatically.

But it doesn't seem to work on an active section like it did years ago.

Sigh.

Maybe Duane can help.

Re: elevation lineweight

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:00:54 GMT

Dwight wrote:
But it doesn't seem to work on an active section like it did years ago.

Sigh.

Maybe Duane can help.

Yeah, I think Duane the inventor of the technique may have to figure out how to make it work in 12. Encountered what seems like buggy behavior to me trying to get this to work. Even taking a Worksheet view of the elevation, to get an exploded copy, ran into the following problem:

I drew a continuous line around the outside of the elevation and through the middle. If I turn off all layers except this line, and magic wand inside the linework with a fill (testing the magic wand issue) - it fills the bounded space just fine. Turn on the elevation, and magic wand above the roof, within the drawn-line boundary, and I get the error message "Region not found around this point!", and nothing happens. But, at the least, there is a region defined by the continuous line. Adding MORE lines cannot make a continuous region discontinuous. So...methinks there is a bug...

Hopefully, Duane has an idea...

Cheers,
karl