topic Re: Autotext line breaks in Documentation

Autotext line breaks

Anonymous — Fri, 19 May 2023 14:02:52 GMT

As queried in this wish is there a way of adding a hard return to a line of autotext, specifically on a Mac (I remember doing it in Windows). A good example if for a Layout title.

We have tried typing the required text in a normal text field and copy/paste into layout name, but this does not work.

A search revealed that wish linked above, hence the double post.

Cheers

Re: Autotext line breaks

Erich — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:36:44 GMT

S2art,

What are you trying to do? I have hard returns in the autotext from my project information. The returns are placed in the Project info text box and not on the layout. Does this fix it for you or are you trying to put returns into autotext from the system or somewhere else that might not allow that control?

Re: Autotext line breaks

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:53:48 GMT

We are trying to control the point at which Layout names "break" or drop down a line

so we get

LAYOUT PLANS
GROUND AND FIRST FLOOR

and not

LAYOUT PLANS GROUND AND FIRST
FLOOR

We have #LayoutName autotext elements in the Master.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Barry Kelly — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:06:22 GMT

s2art wrote:
We are trying to control the point at which Layout names "break" or drop down a line

so we get

LAYOUT PLANS
GROUND AND FIRST FLOOR

and not

LAYOUT PLANS GROUND AND FIRST
FLOOR

We have #LayoutName autotext elements in the Master.

I can't remember if it is "/n" or "\n" (without the quotes) that forces a line break in text.
Does it help if you use this in the layout name?
Barry.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Erich — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:07:23 GMT

S2art,

Hmmm, now I see what you are trying to do. Unfortunately I don't have an answer for this one. I smells of the general text formating limitations we face in a number of areas with AC.

Perhaps someone more versed has a work around? .......

Re: Autotext line breaks

owen — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:47:49 GMT

no idea how to line break the autotext .. i'm pretty sure i have heard someone on ACTalk say it can be done though (which is of no help - but we can't all be imagining it)

As a workaround could you use a simple GDL text block placed on the master with two PARAGRAPHS containing the Autotext? .. one for Subset Name (Layout Plans?) and one for Layout Name (Ground and First Floor?)

it may not give you the file names you want when Publishing to PDF though (or it may .. ive just been to a Bjork concert so im not really in an AC mindspace right now)

Re: Autotext line breaks

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:26:26 GMT

Barry wrote:

I can't remember if it is "/n" or "\n" (without the quotes) that forces a line break in text.
Does it help if you use this in the layout name?
Barry.

Doesn't work for me, thanks.

owen wrote:
As a workaround could you use a simple GDL text block placed on the master with two PARAGRAPHS containing the Autotext? .. one for Subset Name (Layout Plans?) and one for Layout Name (Ground and First Floor?)

I suppose you could just use two lines of text with separate autotext fields in them. Not a bad idea. I would probably try it the other way though, putting all my plan layouts in a Subset called "Ground and First Floors" with the Layout Names then being "Construction Plans", Electrical Plans", "Framing Plans", "Bracing Plans" etc. (mostly 2 storey residential type work, having type of plan as subset name would require LOTS of subsets).

We'll give it a go.

owen wrote:
(ive just been to a Bjork concert so im not really in an AC mindspace right now)

I can understand that.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:26:45 GMT

s2art wrote:
Barry wrote:

I can't remember if it is "/n" or "\n" (without the quotes) that forces a line break in text.
Does it help if you use this in the layout name?
Barry.
Doesn't work for me, thanks.

I think this works only when the text you enter is used by some GDL object.
The reason is that \n is a character string that has any meaning only in GDL.
For example, if you use the \n characters once in the name of a Zone Stamp, it will break it into two lines (of course it will mess it up because now that line of the Zone Stamp which is supposed to be one line is now two lines, and other parts of the Zone Stamp's 2D Script "think" it is one line so it will overflow other texts in the Zone Stamp.)
This of course could be solved - in case anyone is interested - because you could check in the GDL code any line of the Zone Stamp to see if it has \n character string in it and then use the ADD2 command before drawing the next line of text below it accordingly to shift it by the correct distance. (Sorry if this does not make much sense to many, I am adding it for GDL guys.)

AutoTexts are not GDL so they cannot use this trick.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Link — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:38:06 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
AutoTexts are not GDL so they cannot use this trick.

So what trick can we use then?

I haven't fouind one yet.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:08:27 GMT

Unfortunately I do not know of any either.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:43:33 GMT

Subsets suggestion sort of worked, but had it's own problems (like, what if a Section drawing was amongst the plans), but it has some merit.

Surely we're not the only (Mac using?) people in the world of Architecture that strike this problem? Can you still put a return in Windows Layout names? I vaguely remember losing this ability in later releases.

Thanks for your continued efforts, guys.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Link — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:48:45 GMT

I've met many users over the years that have encountered this problem on both platforms. No one has come up with a workaround that is flexible and reliable. Of course they shouldn't need to come up with a workaround, because Graphisoft should take the multiple bug reports and do something about it.

Who knows, maybe Laci can jump on his bike again and whisper a request in the boys ears?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Autotext line breaks

owen — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:39:15 GMT

s2art wrote:
Subsets suggestion sort of worked, but had it's own problems (like, what if a Section drawing was amongst the plans), but it has some merit.

Our subsets usually only contain drawings of a particular orientation - such as GA Plans, GA Sections, Detail Plans, etc - so we haven't really run into this problem. Everyone has their own way of organizing drawings though so i guess this isn't going to work for all.

Still using GDL is probably the only way to do it .. i think you can use pretty much any character in a string to act as a line break if you want stick with using just the Layout Name for your title

s2art wrote:

owen wrote:
(ive just been to a Bjork concert so im not really in an AC mindspace right now)
I can understand that.

Fantastic concert - setting on the forecourt terrace of the Sydney Opera House. It sure must be interesting inside her head .. a friend described it as 'a mouse and a rattlesnake in a knife fight'

Re: Autotext line breaks

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:42:34 GMT

Link wrote:
I've met many users over the years that have encountered this problem on both platforms. No one has come up with a workaround that is flexible and reliable. Of course they shouldn't need to come up with a workaround, because Graphisoft should take the multiple bug reports and do something about it.

Who knows, maybe Laci can jump on his bike again and whisper a request in the boys ears?

Cheers,
Link.

Well, I can certainly tell them about it, and I will do so.
Unfortunately, that's all I can do for now.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Djordje — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:09 GMT

You can sorta line break it, by resizing the text bounding box.

But you can't exactly control where the break is, so it is an 80% solution.

Re: Autotext line breaks

Vasileios S_ — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 07:03:19 GMT

Any luck on after 13 years on this post?

Re: Autotext line breaks

Barry Kelly — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 08:02:30 GMT

Vasileios wrote:
Any luck on after 13 years on this post?

Exactly what are you trying to split?
If it is one autotext value, then no you can't split it unless you stretch the text box.

If it is multiple autotext values or text and auto text, just ENTER to get a new line.

Barry.

Re: Autotext line breaks

LeeJaeYoung — Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:38:06 GMT

Is line break possible?
I want to down to the next line to "구조평면도".