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Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 14:07:40 GMT

Our office recently upgraded from ArchiCAD 10 to 11. In version 10 I was getting used to using a light grey solid fill and having it print as a grayscale. Now opening those same drawings in 11, they are printing solid black regardless of what colour the solid fill is.

Is this just a simple setting or a change for 11.

I can post / send an example to anyone who can help me.

Thanks,

Dan

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:23:46 GMT

Should I just call Graphisoft?

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Richard Morrison — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:29:48 GMT

It may be a setting in your printer rather than in Archicad. You will probably get a better response if you tell people what printer, etc. you're using.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:38:16 GMT

It doesnt matter which printer we use it still does it, but if it helps the problems occurs when creating Adobe PDFs, or with our Epson Stylus Pro 4000, Xerox WC 7132, and the HP Design Jet 750.

And I still have both 10 and 11 on my computer, I only use 10 to print, and I am using the same printer drivers with the same settings.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Richard Morrison — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:40:24 GMT

Well, you might start by checking "Model View Options" in AC11. If the the fill background setting is set to "solid" rather than "by Element Settings", you could get a different result, even though they might look the same on the screen.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Rick Thompson — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:55:19 GMT

There was a change from AC10 to AC11 that might require you to manually change some of your fills. Notice the percent fills. They use to display and print as grids and dots (if I remember correctly), and now they was actually gray scale fills. So yes ,there was a change, and I can't remember the details. It was discussed here.. somewhere. Your dealer should know.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:44:52 GMT

I compared all my settings from 10 to 11 to make sure they are the same. But it still didnt work.

Thats really annoying, but you are right they have reverted back to the percentage fills like in 9. I much prefer using solid fills, I guess I have to change all my solid fills to percentage ones

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Thomas Holm — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:53:47 GMT

Platform?

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:22:09 GMT

I am using XP Pro 64bit, but I also tried it on other computers in the office that run XP and we get the same results.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Thomas Holm — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:54:15 GMT

You might have set your print to B/W in the Archicad pane of the Print dialog. I dunno if this is new default in AC11, but it's happened to me that I've got the wrong setting. If you set AC to print B/W all solid fills will print black. To get greyscale with that setting you need to use the percentage fills. They do not behave as solid, even iff they are not bitmapped as they were in earlier releases,.

If you, like me often use grey pens to get greyscale, you must turn off B/W in the Archicad pane of the Print dialog. This will print grey pens grey, but also colors will print in color. There is no greyscale print setting within Archicad.

If you want to turn all solid colors to grey when printing, you need to use a system or printer setting rather than Archicad's. On the mac you can use the ColorSync pane, and use the Quartz filter Gray Tone. Also, your printer might have options.

Below, examples:
First a screen dump. Then a scanned image of the printed result, first with Archicad's output with B/W off, then with it on.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Thomas Holm — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:56:16 GMT

Scanned print.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Rick Newton — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:38:25 GMT

I had the same problem with pdf's and prints from my HP 500. I discovered a "fix." In the print dialog box, under the "color" tab, select, "True Black." Then, in the "CAD" tab, select, "Use application colors." Then back in the original ArchiCAD print dialog box, select, "Black & White." print it and you will get what you want.

Re: Printing Grayscale ArchiCAD 11 vs ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Tue, 27 May 2008 20:15:43 GMT

I'm having a sim problem except I print with B/W and have a HP 500 with a 42+HPGL2 card.
I don't have a color tab where I can select true black or a cad tab where I select use application colors. Are you talking about the plot options or the print options?