topic Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US in Documentation

Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 11:10:45 GMT

Can someone verify that you can stretch witness lines in R17-3013 US. I am apparently unable to do it.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:22:14 GMT

Works for me in AC 17. GS is recommending that you unload the 3013 hotfix for the US version. Maybe that will help. Actually, reinstall with 3002

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:26:35 GMT

MarkMoscrip wrote:
Works for me in AC 17. GS is recommending that you unload the 3013 hotfix for the US version. Maybe that will help. Actually, reinstall with 3002

They recalled the 3013 patch again? today?

To be sure I am talking about editing only one of the witness lines not both.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:36:30 GMT

Disregard. The procedure to edit it has changed from previous versions.
You have to select the node, click on the dim and then select the 'Edit Witness Line" while before it was select the node, hit your shortcut for the dimension tool and stretch the witness line.

Have to unlearn stuff again.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:17:38 GMT

Well that is the most ridiculous thing I have come across this morning... why add a step?

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:07:59 GMT

Let me write this down for anyone who needs it because I myself had difficulty figuring out how it is down exactly:

1. Select the Dimension Tool.
2. a) SHIFT-click to select a node (to be able to change the Witness Line of that single node)
or b) SHIFT-click at the node of the middle of a Dimension Unit (to be able to change the Witness Line on the two ends of the selected Dimension Unit)
or c) SHIFT-click the line of the whole Dimension Chain (if you want all Witness Line lengths to change)

Note: you may swap the first to steps: first you select a node in the Dimension Chain (with a click if you are in the Arrow Tool, SHIFT-click with any other Tools), then switch to the Dimension Tool.

3. Click on the dimension line (cursor is Mercedes shaped, meaning you found an edge, not any node) and select the Edit Length of Witness Line command of the Pet Palette.
4. Drag you mouse to define the new desired length of the selected Witness Line(s).

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:26:13 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
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3. Click on the dimension line (cursor is Mercedes shaped, meaning you found an edge, not any node) and select the Edit Length of Witness Line command of the Pet Palette.

This is the step that was added in 17 in all previous versions this was not needed.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Dave Jochum — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:38:21 GMT

Is anyone having trouble with this since the latest 5014 update? I can get the pet palette to pop up almost never. "Almost" because it will pop up occasionally 2 or 3 times in a row, then go AWOL again.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:11:46 GMT

Have been dimensioning the past couple of days and stretching without problems on floor plans, have not done any sections/elevs.

Take in consideration that the procedure is finicky and that might be the problem. To refresh the procedure:

1. click on the node
2. activate de Dim tool
3. click on the Dim Line
4. Select the stretch node from the palette if not highlighted

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Dave Jochum — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:28:51 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
Take in consideration that the procedure is finicky and that might be the problem.

For me it used to be finicky, then persnickety. Now it's just broken. Occasionally I can get it to work if I OPTION-SHIFT click the dim line.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Barry Kelly — Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:24:07 GMT

You must have the dimension tool active then select the node (it can be activated after you select the node as well).
Then click on the main dimension line to bring up the pet palette.

All working fine for me with latest upgrade on PC.

Barry.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Dave Jochum — Tue, 28 Jan 2014 04:04:32 GMT

Right, Barry. Thanks for pitching in, but my problems aren't user error, as I've been using 17 since its release and this has just recently come to pass. Pretty frustrating, too.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Steve Jepson — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:43:31 GMT

dbl click the dim chain and pallet opens now with 5014 to adjust length of witness lines in the chain.

But can you adjust witness lines individually ?

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:14:45 GMT

Not if you double click on the Dim Line.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Steve Jepson — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:17:57 GMT

so are you saying there is a way to adjust a single witness line?

How?

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Link — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:22:55 GMT

Steve wrote:
so are you saying there is a way to adjust a single witness line?

How?

ejrolon wrote:

1. click on the node
2. activate de Dim tool
3. click on the Dim Line
4. Select the stretch node from the palette if not highlighted

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:26:39 GMT

Steve wrote:
so are you saying there is a way to adjust a single witness line?

How?

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Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Steve Jepson — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:29:48 GMT

Got it. Thanks. It is a little awkward but it works. I like the way you can just click on the dim line again and stretch the witness line to a new spot if you like before the tool is closed. It would be great if a node at the end of the witness line would show while this is being done.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Dave Jochum — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:22:56 GMT

Steve wrote:
Got it. Thanks. It is a little awkward but it works. I like the way you can just click on the dim line again and stretch the witness line to a new spot if you like before the tool is closed. It would be great if a node at the end of the witness line would show while this is being done.

It's really only awkward because the old method was so ingrained in us. It actually works well--when it actually works! It's been working for me at a higher percentage the last few days. Very odd that it's so sporadic.

There is a rubber band-like line that pops up to indicate your adjustment.

Re: Unable to stretch Dim Witness Lines - R17-3013 US

Steve Jepson — Sat, 01 Feb 2014 01:07:11 GMT

It would be better if it were not the same indicator for adjusting all of the witness lines as for an individual witness line.

It would also be nice if we could adjust selected witness lines rather than just one or all witness lines in a chain.

I do like the ability to work my way along the dimension chain adjusting the witness lines individually with out having to reactivated the tool each time.