topic Re: Disappearing dimensions in Documentation

Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Mon, 22 May 2023 22:02:22 GMT

We have several people in the office have dimensions that disappear.

The problem seems to fix itself when closing out of AC12 and relaunching it. The problem is that many times people will see there are no dimensions, put dimensions into the drawing only to find a double set of dimensions when the file is reopened.

Anyone else having this problem?

Anyone else think this is the buggiest release of ArchiCAD in a long time?

Re: Disappearing dimensions

__archiben — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:43:04 GMT

kevin wrote:
We have several people in the office have dimensions that disappear.

The problem seems to fix itself when closing out of AC12 and relaunching it. The problem is that many times people will see there are no dimensions, put dimensions into the drawing only to find a double set of dimensions when the file is reopened.

Anyone else having this problem?

you need to carefully check your view settings for each placed drawing: with 12 we can now switch between 'full', 'without finish' and a 'core-only' model. each of these states is saved with the view.

how does this affect dimensions? because each of these states can drastically change the sizes of walls, columns, etc any associated dimension will be next to useless. so each state gets it's own set of dimensions. if your dimensions have been placed in one state and your view is saved in another they will disappear.

no, it's not immediately apparent or the best solution.

~/archiben

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:48:08 GMT

You may have discovered a 'feature' rather than a bug.

In 12, dimensions appear not just based on their layer, but also based on the current setting for the partial structure display.

So, if you create dimension chains with Entire Structure as the PSD option (which is stored with a view) and then change to Core Only, then those dimensions will seemingly disappear - they will only show up when (1) their layer is on and (2) the PSD is set to Entire Structure.

Ditto Core Only, and Without Finishes.

I would guess this is what is happening to you? If not, it must be a bug related to this new behavior.

??

Karl

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:48:49 GMT

This is all within the same view. Dimensions are there, then gone, then back again.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:51:36 GMT

We are not using the feature at all. All our views are set to Entire Structure.

And, if the setting is changed it appears that all the dims turn on or off. This is seemingly random, only some are gone.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

__archiben — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:16:11 GMT

do you know exactly what you are doing immediately prior to the dims disappearing? and which type of elements are they associated to?

~/archiben

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:12:52 GMT

Its hard to track because, for me it was one of those "I swear I already dimensioned that" moments. I am trying to get it to reproduce but it seems intermitent. I have asked everyone else to let me know when it happens again so we can try to figure it out.

The ones I personally had disappear where radial dimensions of a curved wall and I don't know what I was doing just before they disappeared. Like I say its not like they popped off the screen, just at some point I noticed they were gone, redimensioned the walls, and then the next day had two sets of radial dimensions.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Anonymous — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:17 GMT

Same thing happening to me. I have dimensioned not just plans but details, worksheets, etc. I go back later, no dimensions. Then I redimension it thinking they're gone. I go back to it later, and now there is 2 sets of the same dimensions!

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Thomas Holm — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:42:19 GMT

Could it be an unintentional shift of layer combinations? (I do it now and then - use project map or window menu to shift between views, instead of the view map)

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:45:22 GMT

No, thought that might be it and tried turing all layers on to find them but they were not there temporarily.

Have to say, has not happened recently. Maybe fixed in last update???

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Anonymous — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:56:19 GMT

Kevin,

Has it happened to you in teamwork? I have only had it happen to me while in teamwork. I've gone through every possible thing that might be wrong (all the previous suggestions) and that's not it. Seems to be a bug. I have not had it happen since the las update, but then I have not done a teamwork project since then either...

I went through the list of bugs that were fixed with the last update and saw nothing about this problem, but maybe it has worked out.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:01:44 GMT

Yes it was in teamwork, and I have been in Teamwork since with no issues...yet.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:59:01 GMT

We have been experiencing the same problem since moving to AC12, and (so far) it seems to be isolated to TW files. Dimensions are disappearing in Detail windows, which I think strange since they contain 2D info and are not automatically updated from the model. Was there ever any resolution to this issue? Constantly re-dimensioning details is a real bummer...

Re: Disappearing dimensions

kevin b — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:10:51 GMT

We have since moved on to AC13 and haven't seen it. Also, back when I last posted, we had just done a hotfix and if I recall back then it seemed to have resolved the problem. Sorry not sue what hotfix we were on at the time, although I will say we usually install the hotfixes within a few days of release and my last post said we had just installed it so I would assume it was whatever one was release mid to end of Oct 2008. Hope that helps.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:12:50 GMT

Well, we're current on the hotfixes, so that's not the solution (to our problem, anyway) -- thanks for the response.

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:15:35 GMT

As Kevin noted, I have not see it happen in AC13 teamwork (yet!).

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:33:37 GMT

We are having the same issue in our office in our TW files. It occurs in details mostly but one group has claimed it happened in their plans as well.

We have also had walls disappear on us but I'm not sure if that is a related issue.

We work in AC11 and are up-to-date on all library and hotfixes.

Has anyone found a solution to this yet?

Re: Disappearing dimensions

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:58:54 GMT

APD wrote:
Has anyone found a solution to this yet?

Besides switching to AC13? No.....