topic Re: New automatic title marker in Documentation

New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Jan 2025 13:34:13 GMT

Hi all,

I am trying to make an object which automatically links back to the relative drawing that it is referencing. (To save time in cross referencing). I had a look at the standard title markers and one looks pretty close in looks, but I cant see hw to reference back to the source page). This is bugging me...

Any one had the same problem?

Ive attached a quick sketch to show you what I mean....

Thanks Guys!

Re: New automatic title marker

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:28:10 GMT

What version of AC are you using? Back referencing is only available in AC12, and even then it is the Layout, not the Drawing that is referenced.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:46:05 GMT

hi,

thanks for your reply. I am using version 11. So when you use the title blocks do you manually put the reference in with a text box?

Re: New automatic title marker

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:49:21 GMT

kirst.coultas wrote:
hi,

thanks for your reply. I am using version 11. So when you use the title blocks do you manually put the reference in with a text box?

This is probably the best way (as opposed to creating a string of text within the title), because you can use Autotext to literally link the text to the back-referenced Drawing.

Re: New automatic title marker

Rob — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:12:14 GMT

I am just curious... why do you need to back-reference a drawing to a drawing and not to a layout? This kind of cross-referencing does not make a sence or at least it is not practical whatsoever.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:17:06 GMT

My mistake. I do need to reference a layout to a layout.

Re: New automatic title marker

Rob — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:18:41 GMT

you meant a drawing to a layout

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:20:23 GMT

yes, my mistake.

Re: New automatic title marker

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:23:13 GMT

Rob wrote:
I am just curious... why do you need to back-reference a drawing to a drawing and not to a layout?

One could have multiple Drawings on a single Layout -- say, eight different enlarged plans. One may want to reference the specific plan, not the entire sheet.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:35:24 GMT

This is also the case. Do you have any idea how to do this?

Re: New automatic title marker

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:49:05 GMT

See this link...

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:07:56 GMT

Thanks Laura, Ill give it a shot.

Thanks again!

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:59:30 GMT

I think this thread is asking the what I need to know, but it's got a bit confusing, so I'll re-ask.

I'm trying to create a title type for sections/elevations/details that reference back to the layout that the originating plan drawing is on.

So if the plan is on SH02, and the elevation is on SH03 I want the title of the elevation to say that it came from SH02.

Can I do this in V11?

Re: New automatic title marker

Link — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:16:39 GMT

Tom wrote:
Can I do this in V11?

Maybe with an intimate knowledge of GDL, but AC12 has Bi-Directional Drawing Marker Referencing. From the New Features List:

The Title panel of Drawing Settings now gives you access to the Back Reference function. Back Reference allows you add Layout ID information to the Drawing Title: specifically, the ID of one or more Layouts that contain a Drawing showing the source marker of the current Drawing.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:24:36 GMT

Thanks Link.

Does any one know how to do this in GDL?

Our office isn't upgrading to 12 so not an option for me I'm afraid.

Cheers

Re: New automatic title marker

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:39:19 GMT

Tom wrote:
Does any one know how to do this in GDL?

Our office isn't upgrading to 12 so not an option for me I'm afraid.

This goes back to my original suggestion to use Autotext -- it's an additional element, but no GDL scripting required.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:25:10 GMT

Laura wrote:
Tom wrote:
Does any one know how to do this in GDL?

Our office isn't upgrading to 12 so not an option for me I'm afraid.
This goes back to my original suggestion to use Autotext -- it's an additional element, but no GDL scripting required.

I built my original one using autotext, but as far as i can find there is no autotext to reference back to the originating sheet number. Unless I've missed something?

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:53:35 GMT

Tom wrote:
Laura wrote:
Tom wrote:
Does any one know how to do this in GDL?

Our office isn't upgrading to 12 so not an option for me I'm afraid.
This goes back to my original suggestion to use Autotext -- it's an additional element, but no GDL scripting required.
I built my original one using autotext, but as far as i can find there is no autotext to reference back to the originating sheet number. Unless I've missed something?

AFAIK there is no reasonable solution for backreferencing in AC11. If it can be done at all in GDL it is certainly "not trivial" (as the programmers like to say). I'm afraid that you either need to do it manually or upgrade to 12.

Re: New automatic title marker

Anonymous — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:07:02 GMT

Ahh well, nevermind, manual it is!

Cheers
Tom