topic Re: Live Marker Trouble in Documentation

Live Marker Trouble

Anonymous — Mon, 22 May 2023 22:02:01 GMT

My question is at the end of the description..

1. I open a sheet - for example, A5.00, where I lay out enlarged stair plans.
The enlarged stair plans are Views dragged onto the sheet from the View Map.These update automatically on my A5.00 sheet.

2. The stair Views are generated from the plan view of the model via detail markers. I set the layer combination in the floor plan and drop a detail marker around the stair. The detail marker is set to "source view" to capture the floor plan image, and are pointed in reference to the first placed drawing of the viewpoint.

3. The generated detail drawings are then noted and dimensioned. Window status is captured and the drawing is saved to the View Map from where it is layed out on sheets. (See 1)

4. When I logout of the project (it is teamworked) and sign back in to view sheet A5.00 my drawings of the stairplans "update" .. and when that happens all my nice and neat dimension and notes move around the view, as if being reset to some virtual start point. Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it??

It is really frustrating, when a set of cds has to go out, and i login the following day to plot them, only to find that all of the dimensions and such in my views have become garbled... the only way ive found to remedy this is to make the views on the layout manual update.. but that is impeding my workflow, esp when other teammmembers may have updated drawings that i was not aware of...

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Erika Epstein — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:12:23 GMT

Could you please post some screenshots so we can see how the dimensions are moving around?

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:33:54 GMT

The following attachments show before and after of an enlarged stair plan on a sheet layout.

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:35:00 GMT

This is how the drawing is before I logout.

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:01:34 GMT

Seems like a bug to me.
I will let GS know about this.

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Mark Wallace — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:06:54 GMT

Under 'Project Preferences' - Dimensions.

Is the 'Revert all dimension text to automatic position' checked?

Un-check it and see if the dimensions stay put.

HTH

Mark

ArchiCAD 12 2420 USA Full
Mac G5 Dual 2.3 Ghz, 1.5 Gb OSX.4.11
HP T1100, Epson R1800

Mark R. Wallace AIA
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Mark Wallace Architect
Collegeville, PA

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:33:48 GMT

Mark wrote:
Under 'Project Preferences' - Dimensions.

Is the 'Revert all dimension text to automatic position' checked?

Un-check it and see if the dimensions stay put.

HTH

Mark

ArchiCAD 12 2420 USA Full
Mac G5 Dual 2.3 Ghz, 1.5 Gb OSX.4.11
HP T1100, Epson R1800

Mark R. Wallace AIA
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Mark Wallace Architect
Collegeville, PA

Yes, I have made sure that in the main dimension settings and in the individual dimension text settings this option is NOT enabled. Ive also tested whether the live marker points to viewpoint or view makes a difference and the bug occurs either way.. Would be a great things to include in the next hotfix ::nudge GS nudge ::

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Mark Wallace — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:58:28 GMT

I'm a solo practitioner so I don't use the teamwork aspects of AC. This 'jumping around' stuff happened to me in AC 10 & 11. I think there as even a hoffix in 11 that addressed this.

The only absolute way to prevent any graphic redrawing (or rearranging) is to disable 'Automatic Updating' in that particular view. If the model changes, then do a manual update and check the layout views (Drawings).

Other past threads have discussed the merits; pro & con to this approach.

I agree, it is a very basic 'drafting' problem of placing text and so annoying to find the text moved in the model from were it was placed.

Although text on my model stays put, there could be any number a variables at play in a networked environment. Otherwise, I'm fresh out of ideas.

Mark

ArchiCAD 12 2420 USA Full, Mac G5 Dual 2.3 Ghz, 1.5 Gb OSX.4.11
HP T1100, Epson R1800
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Mark R. Wallace AIA

Re: Live Marker Trouble

Erika Epstein — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:59:59 GMT

A shot in the dark, but the only time I've seen problems with dimensions in 12 is when I placed them while the MVO had partial Structure display set to other than what the view was saved with i.e. 'Entire Structure'.