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Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 00:30:40 GMT

I've had this issue for a while and its gotten to the point where its a bit frustrating when I go to export my drawings as PDF's.

After having my layout and title block all done in the layout book... some things dont show up that I want to and some things show up that I dont want to. So basically, my project map floor plans dont match my layout book floor plans.

I love this feature in ArchiCAD because your final print layout updates even when you change your floor plans.. its great. However, there are many times when for example my roof will show on my layout book sheets even if my roof layer is hidden. Thats just one example along with many others such as curtain walls showing in the project map view but won't update to my layout book view.

The BIGGEST issue is simply hidden layers still showing up in the layout book view even though the layers aren't turned on nor showing up in the Project map view.

To solve this in the past I've had to delete the layers I want turned off in order to export my drawings without them showing and then undoing everything I deleted and resaving before I exit the program. I'm sure you can imagine how annoying and risky that is when it comes to possibly lost work.

Anyone know how I can fix this?

Thanks in advance, greatly appreciate the feedback.

Anthony

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:52:05 GMT

You need to place you drawings in the Layout from the View MAp, not the Project Map. The View Map is for storing all the various settings... layers, scale.. display.. etc. That will stay fixed as per settings. The project map is completely different, and not for that purpose as above.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:08:22 GMT

I guess I should have been more clear.

I do use my view map floor plans for the layout, but I get the view map floor plans from the project map of course.

When in the project map, I save my current view, and then it shows up in my view map. Then I take it from my view map and put it into my layout.

However, as I proceed to edit my floor plans (from the project map of course) it doesn't always edit my layout view correctly.

I understand what you mean, but isn't the fact that I use the view map sort of obvious? Can you even put a drawing in the layout directly from the project map? ....

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:14:46 GMT

I think I may see where you are coming from..

Do you mean you have to edit your drawing view in the view map?

Instead of assuming it'll update when you change the project map?

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:15:37 GMT

Under View Map, open the settings window, after all is as you want displayed, and click "get current settings". That will "capture" the settings and any change will be under those parameters.

If you just dragging the Project map view, to the View map and not setting it up, then it isn't telling the layout what to display.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:20:32 GMT

Ohhh ok ok. So even though you change your floor plans within the project map, what is displayed in the layout view strictly depends on your settings from the view map, correct?

I think I see now. So for example if I have my beams showing in the project map, but in the view map I am telling them to be turned off, they wont show until I change my view map settings.

This makes sense since I somewhat ignored the use of the view map other than using it to organizing my views.

Thanks a lot, appreciate the help.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:21:49 GMT

allegronea wrote:
I understand what you mean, but isn't the fact that I use the view map sort of obvious? Can you even put a drawing in the layout directly from the project map? ....

Actually never tried

You might reread the manual for this process. It is pretty important and does have subtleties. Once set up in View Map you home free, but it needs attention, which involves quite a few areas to have already set up (like Model views, layering..etc).

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:25:01 GMT

Yes, I do pretty simple work compared to most on this forum, but even so I have several floor plan views (Work, Print, Electrical, Framing).. see screen shot>>>

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:27:18 GMT

allegronea wrote:
This makes sense since I somewhat ignored the use of the view map other than using it to organizing my views.

Thanks a lot, appreciate the help.

The well established view map is a fundamental key to an easy life with AC.

Your welcome

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:27:42 GMT

Oh okay, so if you want to print multiple floorplans of different layers you need to set them in the view map. I gotcha. This makes everything a whole lot easier

Now I dont have to delete layers so I can get them to print correctly lol.

Thanks!

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:32:33 GMT

It will click when all the little pieces come together. Especially when you can develop a good template for a project type. Favorites are a hugh time saver worth exploring if you haven't already.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:57:50 GMT

Can't wait!

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:12:38 GMT

Actually just realized another question if anyone peaks in at this thread again.

If I set up my settings in my view map the way I want, is there a way to prevent all layers from turning off when I return to the project map?

For example if all of my layers are on while I'm working in the project map, and I then click on my view map view which is set to have many layers turned off, is there a way to click back to the project map without the view map settings sticking?

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Rick Thompson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:26:15 GMT

I never use the Project map except when importing schedules or building a material list. Just set up as many views as you commonly use. If I want all layers on, I click that icon on the tool bar, which might not be set up on yours, I don't remember what is standard. If you commonly need a view with all layers visible, set up a view for that. It's the one with a stack of pages. The easiest way to set up your views want involve the Project map at all, at least for me. Open the layer settings, establish the layers... then capture the view with the "save current view" button at the bottom of the navigator. Same for all plans, sections, elevations etc.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:32:31 GMT

Alright that makes sense, thanks again.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:43:01 GMT

Is it possible to make a 3D view for the view map? Similar to the Generic Perspective view from the Project Map?

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:11:59 GMT

allegronea wrote:
Is it possible to make a 3D view for the view map? Similar to the Generic Perspective view from the Project Map?

You use cameras (and camera paths) for this.

Also, it's not clear to me if you are using layer combinations. If not you should. They are the best way to control what is displayed in the views, as well as giving a quick way to revert to a plan/model set after switching out of editing a view.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

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Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:29:29 GMT

allegronea wrote:
I understand what you mean, but isn't the fact that I use the view map sort of obvious? Can you even put a drawing in the layout directly from the project map? ....

If you open the Organizer and drag-and-drop a Viewpoint (such as the Floor Plan) from the Project Map directly onto a Layout, you will notice that a View has been created in the process. This because only Views can be placed on Layouts - a Views is a Viewpoint plus stored settings such as Scale, Layer Combination etc.

Re: Layout Book doesn't match Project map floor plans.

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:37:50 GMT

allegronea wrote:
Actually just realized another question if anyone peaks in at this thread again.

If I set up my settings in my view map the way I want, is there a way to prevent all layers from turning off when I return to the project map?

For example if all of my layers are on while I'm working in the project map, and I then click on my view map view which is set to have many layers turned off, is there a way to click back to the project map without the view map settings sticking?

Save a View in a View Map which sets all layers visible.
Or there is the Document\Layers\Show All Layers menu command. Assign a keyboard shortcut to it and use that.