topic Re: Layouts and pen sets in Documentation

Layouts and pen sets

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 00:28:06 GMT

How do you define which pen set is used in a layout?
I don't mean drawings placed into a layout but texts, lines etc. placed directly into the layout.
I'd love the rawing titles to print in black but it seems to me that the pen set used is sometimes totally random.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:18:38 GMT

Go to the Layout Book and display the Layout you want.
Then activate the Options\Element Attributes\Pens & Colors (Layout Book) menu command.
In the Dialog change the Pen Set in the list to one you you want to use.
Click OK to accept the change.
The selected Pen Set will be used for all items drawn directly on Layouts and Master Layouts.
Note: Drawings placed onto Layouts can have their own assigned Pen Set specified in their Settings Dialog.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

gorbeats — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:32:40 GMT

I met the same problem during the past years several times, and it turned out that the solution above is okay when you discover that the drawn elements on the layout changed colour.

But the real problem is that the chosen pen set won't be linked, so whenever I try to manipulate pen sets the last one selected will be the one that layout elements use. Sometimes the error is obvious, for example if the pen colour is different in the other pen set. But sometimes only the line weight is different, and for example the frame of plan would be drawn with a thick line, but instead it comes out as hairline after print production.

I think the best solution would be to link pen sets with layouts and folders, or at least with the layout book.

If this is an option somehow already implemented, then please enlighten me, otherwise I'd really welcome this feature.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:00:26 GMT

The thing is that the Pen Set you set will apply to all elements drawn on all Layouts in te whole Layout Book.
There is no per Layout setting available.

Honestly, this has never been a problem for me personally because I don't think one should be drawing on the Layouts, except for the Title Block on Master Layouts. So this has never been an issue for me.

But you can make a wish and we will see how much this is an issue for others.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Anonymous — Wed, 11 May 2016 04:57:26 GMT

I am having trouble with an old file I have brought into AC19 that was made in 17, I have changed the penset in the view to GA 1:100, but when the drawing is placed on the layout the penset is different & I cannot get it to change.
Help!!

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Barry Kelly — Wed, 11 May 2016 05:42:07 GMT

Have a look in the settings for the drawing you have placed on the layout.
It will have its own settings for pen set which is totally independent of the pen set used in the views.

Barry.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Anonymous — Wed, 11 May 2016 05:47:59 GMT

The view penset is GA 1:100 in the view settings, so how can it change when it gets to the layout?

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Barry Kelly — Wed, 11 May 2016 05:55:51 GMT

The drawing has it own settings.
You can set it to use "By View' pen set - your will be set to a particular pen set.

Barry.

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Anonymous — Wed, 11 May 2016 06:10:18 GMT

Ah ha..
Thank you Barry

Re: Layouts and pen sets

Anonymous — Tue, 24 May 2016 16:49:39 GMT

I am having a similar problem. Would be happy with a 06 Impression 50 - Noir pen set for my documentation. I can set it in Model and View mode, however, when I drag my drawing to the Layout it becomes colourful even if the Option settings show the desired pen set (see attached). Please help.