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HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

rob2218 — Thu, 25 May 2023 22:05:15 GMT

So...whenever I double click (enter) into any particular layout....I want to automatically "SEE" the entire sheet layout as my FIRST view when I open a layout.

I know with "VIEWMAPS" you can designate and save the "CURRENT VIEW" parameters so you can see the "whole" view map when you go to view it....but how do I do that with a LAYOUT (sheet)?

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:55:37 GMT

View information is not saved with a Layout. The only way is to make sure you are viewing the extents of a layout before you leave layout view. Then when you come back you'll be in the same relative place in whatever layout you go to.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

NCornia — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:09:47 GMT

Rob,

•Layouts do not have the same function as a saved View.
•So you need to set the zoom after opening the layout.
•However, the zoom factor will remain constant for all layouts until you zoom in or out to a different zoom factor.
•You can use the Fit in Window command have the layout quickly fill the space.

Default keyboard shortcuts for Fit in Window:
Mac: COMMAND + '
Windows: CTRL + '

I was discussing a wish tangential to yours with a colleague just recently. I'll add your topic as part of the discussion for a future improvement.

Best regards,

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

rob2218 — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:27:03 GMT

thank you.
I suppose...as a habbit one could simply remember to hit the "zoom extents" button EVERY time you leave a layout....but who really does that?
Maybe if it eventually gets too annoying seeing the layout zoomed way in....I'll remember to hit the zoom extents before leaving all layouts.

Now..do ALL layouts react to the same zoom extents or is it a 'per layout' condition as to how it will look from layout to layout?

NCornia wrote:
Rob,

•Layouts do not have the same function as a saved View.
•So you need to set the zoom after opening the layout.
•However, the zoom factor will remain constant for all layouts until you zoom in or out to a different zoom factor.
•You can use the Fit in Window command have the layout quickly fill the space.

Default keyboard shortcuts for Fit in Window:
Mac: COMMAND + '
Windows: CTRL + '

I was discussing a wish tangential to yours with a colleague just recently. I'll add your topic as part of the discussion for a future improvement.

Best regards,

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:32:15 GMT

I often have layouts with extra views outside the printed area, so would not want these to Fit to Window automatically.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

rob2218 — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:59:57 GMT

YES, good point on this one.
so....then....I suppose that the ideal "zoomed out" area would be, say the 'sheet only' edges. If you zoom out to only where the layout (sheet) edge is...then all sheets (layouts) will follow suite.

s2art wrote:
I often have layouts with extra views outside the printed area, so would not want these to Fit to Window automatically.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

NCornia — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 00:42:31 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
Now..do ALL layouts react to the same zoom extents or is it a 'per layout' condition as to how it will look from layout to layout?
NCornia wrote:
•However, the zoom factor will remain constant for all layouts until you zoom in or out to a different zoom factor.

Clarification: The zoom factor is the same for all layouts in terms of percentage. If you have all 24x 36 sheets and you have zoomed to a percentage that fits the entire layout in the window then all 24" x 36" sheets will be framed the same. If you have a mix of layout sizes though then the 8.5" x 11" sheets will fill less of the window and if you have a 42" x "36" sheet then it will show as cropped.

Imagine the zoom like a swing arm magnifying glass above a table. It stays at the same height for all sheets on the table below. As you adjust the height of the magnifying glass, all sheets will now display at the new zoom.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 03:03:13 GMT

It would be a really useful enhancement for each layout view to be "saveable" or remembered. It is annoying for me when switching from an A3 size layout to an A1 size, and having to zoom out, then reverse the process if I switch back to a smaller (A3) size layout.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Stress Co_ — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:22:44 GMT

NCornia wrote:
•You can use the Fit in Window command have the layout quickly fill the space.

Default keyboard shortcuts for Fit in Window:
Mac: COMMAND + '
Windows: CTRL + '

Shorter Shortcut:
Double-click the middle mouse button.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Link — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:58:56 GMT

GraemeB wrote:
It would be a really useful enhancement for each layout view to be "saveable" or remembered. It is annoying for me when switching from an A3 size layout to an A1 size, and having to zoom out, then reverse the process if I switch back to a smaller (A3) size layout.

If I have a layout book with hundreds of layouts I'd rather zoom a couple of times when switching sheet sizes rather than set hundreds of saved views. And what happens if you change the master to a set of drawings?

Having an option to automatically zoom to the extents of master layout would be preferable IMHO.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HOW TO GET LAYOUT TO ZOOM OUT TO EXTENTS WHEN VIEWING?

Erika Epstein — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:56:18 GMT

Link wrote:
Having an option to automatically zoom to the extents of master layout would be preferable IMHO.

Cheers,
Link.

Agree Link, this would be ideal. How about making a poll out of this?