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Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 10:37:29 GMT

Hello -

I'm trying to see how to make a label that the pointer starts from the top or bottom of the label, not from the sides. Is this possible to do within the provided library parts? Suggestions/tips?

Thank you.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:13:31 GMT

You can rotate the Label by 90 degrees. The rotation angle field is in the Text Label panel of the Label Settings Dialog for simple Text Labels, or the Symbol Label panel for GDL-based Labels.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:43:41 GMT

Thanks for the response. I've tried what your direction stated (see screenshot). I'm obviously doing it wrong. A screenshot of where I should be looking at?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:58:47 GMT

ESP182 wrote:
I'm trying to see how to make a label that the pointer starts from the top or bottom of the label, not from the sides.

Out of curiosity, what specific label we are talking about. There are many different labels. What is the label object name in question?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:02:01 GMT

Type preview - "Text" label. Should I be using a different version?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:08:19 GMT

ESP182 wrote:
Type preview - "Text" label.

I asked because I could not identify "diamond inside rectangle" shape of the label in the original image. I still can't figure out how did you arrive at that double shape?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:53:58 GMT

Yes, Anton is right. These shapes are not available with simple Labels like Text, ID and Unique ID, because these 3 Label Types are not GDL-based so only the default rectangular Frame is available.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 21:34:50 GMT

The label was an "NCS Indicator 19" with a frame around the shape.

The way I've had to resolve this is create a label using the "NCS Indicator 19" with Louver Indicator as the label style. Then creating a "Text" label with no content, so that just a pointer appears. After that I've rotated the "Text" label with no content so that the leader/pointer is down.

But yet, I still haven't found a way to just have one label, that I can have a pointer coming from either the top or bottom of it. Thus, why I'm looking for tips/suggestions/directions if this is doable.

Thank you.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

sinceV6 — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:49:43 GMT

Hi.
Use "Identification label", frame ON and in Custom settings->label geometry change the frame shape to "Square rotated".
Should get you what you're after.
Best regards.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 18:49:23 GMT

Thanks Since,

I tried using your direction, but can't get a pointer on the Identification Label. Once I select "Add/Remove Pointer" from the Pointer dropdown, the label goes back to having it only from the sides. I'm guess that Graphisoft never designed a Rotated Square with a leader line and pointer?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 19:37:17 GMT

ESP182 wrote:
I'm guess that Graphisoft never designed a Rotated Square with a leader line and pointer?

Probably.

I think any ArchiCAD labels have a hard-coded (internal) restriction that a label can only connect to the pointer on the left side... (I am curious whether ArchiCAD has any right to left language support... Hebrew for instance... and how labels work there.)

I'll look into this shortly.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:47:27 GMT

I would say that A Label's pointer can only connect to its side, not to its left.
You can simply mirror it vertically, and then the pointer starts from the right, not the left.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:49:14 GMT

But is there a way to have a label with the leader, with a pointer, coming from either the top or bottom, not left or right sides?

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Aug 2016 21:45:37 GMT

ESP182 wrote:
But is there a way to have a label with the leader, with a pointer, coming from either the top or bottom, not left or right sides?

I don't think so. From what I see the pointer can only be connected on the left.

I am not sure it can be done any other way. The only DGL variable related to this issue specifies pointer position as "Bottom" "Middle" or "Top". All on the left.

I'll look into what Laszlo said above and see if any transformations might affect that.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:58:24 GMT

Looks like I'll have to make a wish list item for this? Until then, I'll continue using two different labels to make this happen. Works around ftw!

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:40:46 GMT

ESP182 wrote:
Looks like I'll have to make a wish list item for this? Until then, I'll continue using two different labels to make this happen. Works around ftw!

I looked into this from different angles, but this might be a bit more difficult than usual.
We can't even solve this with custom programming, as ArchiCAD does not even have an option to attach pointer to the top or bottom of a label.
The only variable available to us (LABEL_ANCHOR_POS) is hardcoded into ArchiCAD to only allow attaching pointer on the side of the label and, then, has only three positions — bottom left corner, left middle and left top corner.
Naturally, as Laszlo said, you can mirror the label, but it will still have a pointer on the side, just opposite one. Never on top or bottom.

@Laszlo: This, probably, needs to be examined by GS staff... there is nothing we can do here, Laszlo.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:43:07 GMT

Thank you for the update:

I started a wish list for this:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=258823#258823

Thanks again for the responses.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

sinceV6 — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:53:30 GMT

Anton wrote:
... We can't even solve this with custom programming, as ArchiCAD does not even have an option to attach pointer to the top or bottom of a label.
The only variable available to us (LABEL_ANCHOR_POS) is hardcoded into ArchiCAD to only allow attaching pointer on the side of the label and, then, has only three positions — bottom left corner, left middle and left top corner....

It can be solved with custom scripting, but you'd have to script the whole thing, including the lines, pointer arrow and bypass the label position.

Best regards.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:26:50 GMT

sinceV6 wrote:
It can be solved with custom scripting, but you'd have to script the whole thing, including the lines, pointer arrow and bypass the label position.

That won't be a label, though.

Re: Labels - Pointer connected to bottom or top, how to?

sinceV6 — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:32:20 GMT

Anton wrote:
That won't be a label, though.

Why not?