topic Re: Drawing Numbering in Documentation

Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 00:36:55 GMT

So. . .I have the honor and privelage of generating a master layout book. I don't think that I need technical help as I have the page numbering, and title types all figured out. What I'm REALLY needing is some help on the literal page numbering to use.

For example: numbering page C-001 for the cover, then C-101 for grading, A-101 for floor plans, etc. etc.

I'd like to get a master number list for ALL project types, be it commercial, or residential.

Re: Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:58:46 GMT

Ours uses this convention:
AO Title page, General notes
A1 Site plans and site details
A2 Floor plans
A3 Schedules
A4 Exterior Elevations
A5 Wall Sections
A6 Interior Elevations
A7 Reflected Ceiling plans
A8 Roof Plans

Re: Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:06:12 GMT

Thank you. I also checked out a few different search engines and found this on the internet.

Sheets in a bound set should be organized in the following sequence:

C = Civil
L = Landscape

A = Architectural

S = Structural

M = Mechanical

P = Plumbing

Q=Equipment (freezers, refrigerators, etc.: premanufactured items that are built-in and need to be connected to water, sewer, electrictity or gas)

F = Fire Protection (fire sprinklers, standpipes, fire extinguishers)

E = Electrical (power and lighting)

T = Telecommunications (telephone, cctv, cable, wired computer network, intercom, sound, and security)

I = Interior Furnishings

Drawing numbering sequence is as follows:
100 series: plans and reflected ceiling plans (plotted at 1/4" = 1'-0" or 1/8" = 1'-0" scale)
200 series: elevations (plotted at 1/4" = 1'-0" or 1/8" = 1'-0" scale)
300 series: sections (plotted at 1/4" = 1'-0" or 1/8" = 1'-0" scale)
400 series: large scale "blown up" plans, elevations and sections (usually plotted at 1/4" = 1'-0", 1/2" = 1'-0" or 3/4" = 1'-0" scale)
500 series: details (plotted at 3/4" = 1'-0" , 1 1/2" = 1'-0", 3" = 1'-0" scale, half size or full size)
600 series: schedules and diagrams (no scale

Yay internet!!!

Re: Drawing Numbering

Bruce — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:16:50 GMT

What you want to do is possible (If I understand you correctly).

I use the WD1.01, WD4.05 etc method and I can get it to work no trouble. I'll explain the method you use in PlotMaker:

- Create a separate subset for each 'prefix' you want. e.g. Fire, Electrical etc
- Open the Book Settings and ensure "Use Hierarchy" is selected.
- Open the Subset Settings and under "Numbering of Items in this Subset" select "Customize"; deselect "Use Prefix & Numbering of Upper Levels"; select "Add Prefix for this Subset" and type in "F1" (or whatever letter and number this subset is to be e.g H4); Change "Numbering Style" to "01".

That should do the trick. The result will be that all layouts added under a particular subset - say F2 - will be numbered F201, F202 etc.

Is that what you were after?

Re: Drawing Numbering

Bruce — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:19:27 GMT

Hmmm. After re-reading you post I think you were asking a different question. Oh well, maybe it'll help someone else

Re: Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:41:30 GMT

chad.lawson wrote:
I'd like to get a master number list for ALL project types, be it commercial, or residential.

Look at this Site:
http://www.nationalcadstandard.org/samples.html

Re: Drawing Numbering

Steve Jepson — Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:11:48 GMT

There are lots of Standards. It depends on who the drawings are for. Government work, Engineers, Architects, Shop Drawings, Fabrication, Assembly, House Plans, etc... they all have different standards for sheet numbering and detail reference.

I would like to see what other firms do for sheet numbering, drawing index, Cover sheet, etc... for 15-20 sheet (24X26) Custom Residential Plans, and small Commercial projects.

I want the drawings to be "user friendly" . The builders don't care about how elegantly my sheets are numbered. They want a set of plans that is easy to use in the field. Not a lot of jumping around to find the details they need. They want (for example) all of the infomation for the Foundation plan to be on the same sheet. On the other hand, I would prefer to put all of the details on separate sheets and have no details on floor plan sheets. I want to organize the drawings for logical use with View Sets, Publishing, and PlotMaker. I am looking for examples from offices who have a system they like to use, and that works well on the job.

This is what I am using now.(+/-) I want sugestions for making it better.

G1.0 Cover sheet -3D rendering (sketch mode), Site Plan, location map, drawing index.
G1.2 General Notes, Code Summary,Area summary, Specs. (if including in drawings) Window and Door Schedules. (sometimes)

A1.0 Foundation and First Floor Framing (a few details also)
A2.0 First Floor Plan
A3.0 Second Floor Plan
A4.0 Elevations Exterior (usually front and back fit on one sheet)
A4.1 Elevations Exterior ( right and left)
A5.0 Electrical Plan
A5.1 Electrical Plan Second Floor
A6.0 Room Finish Plans and Schedules, Notes(1/8" usually-both floors)
A6.1 Reflected Ceiling Plans ( 1/8" usually-both floors)
A7.0 Wall Sections and full height
A7.1 Sections -more sections
A8.0 Details
A8.1 Details
M1.0 HVAC Layout and sometimes plumbing diagrams
S1.0 Manufactures I-Joist layouts and details.
S1.1 Roof Framing Plan
S1.2 Truss diagrams (if available) 3D perspectives of the roof.
S1.3 Engineers Sheets, Calcs, Details, Holddown and Shear Schedules

please post pictures of your cover sheet (plans too for that mater) if it is not confidential.

Re: Drawing Numbering

KeesW — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:29:41 GMT

There is another way of numbering. Some of us use a prefix to indicate the design service stage. For example, 'E' for existing, 'S' for sketch plans, 'W' for working drawings, etc. One then has to decide whether to make the numbering consequetive, with only the prefix changing, or whether the numbering should restart for each work stage. I am not sure if Archicad can cope with the latter.

Re: Drawing Numbering

TomWaltz — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:37:08 GMT

KeesW wrote:
There is another way of numbering. Some of us use a prefix to indicate the design service stage. For example, 'E' for existing, 'S' for sketch plans, 'W' for working drawings, etc. One then has to decide whether to make the numbering consequetive, with only the prefix changing, or whether the numbering should restart for each work stage. I am not sure if Archicad can cope with the latter.

It sounds like you could achieve "numbering by stage" using Subgroups, couldn't you? One with E, one with S, etc...

Although I think keeping all that in one layout book may make the files open a bit slow...

Re: Drawing Numbering

KeesW — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:49:08 GMT

Hi Tom
We do use prefixes and subgroups but are having trouble making our numbers consequetive, regardless of the subgroup. For example, existing drawings have the prefix 'E' and usually start with '01' and go to, say, '04'. Sketch drawings have the prefix 'S' and would preferably start with '05'. However, it keeps defaulting to an ''01' start with each new subgroup.

The automatic numbering is so convenient that we use it all the time, regardless of this apparent limitation. Maybe we need to look harder to get around this!
Kees

Re: Drawing Numbering

TomWaltz — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:20:26 GMT

KeesW wrote:
Hi Tom
We do use prefixes and subgroups but are having trouble making our numbers consequetive, regardless of the subgroup. For example, existing drawings have the prefix 'E' and usually start with '01' and go to, say, '04'. Sketch drawings have the prefix 'S' and would preferably start with '05'. However, it keeps defaulting to an ''01' start with each new subgroup.

The automatic numbering is so convenient that we use it all the time, regardless of this apparent limitation. Maybe we need to look harder to get around this!
Kees

If you look at the Subset settings, there should be a "Custom" setting for numbering, and a "Start with" value. Sorry I cannot be specific, but for once in my life, I am neither at work not at a machine with Archicad on it!

I will try to post something with a screenshot tomorrow (if no one beats me to it!)

Re: Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:21:55 GMT

KeesW wrote:
Hi Tom
We do use prefixes and subgroups but are having trouble making our numbers consequetive, regardless of the subgroup. For example, existing drawings have the prefix 'E' and usually start with '01' and go to, say, '04'. Sketch drawings have the prefix 'S' and would preferably start with '05'. However, it keeps defaulting to an ''01' start with each new subgroup.

The automatic numbering is so convenient that we use it all the time, regardless of this apparent limitation. Maybe we need to look harder to get around this!
Kees

Check you subset settings. In there you can designate what number to start from.

Re: Drawing Numbering

KeesW — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:30:50 GMT

Thanks for your prompt reply - don't archicad users ever sleep!

Yes we can manually nominate a starting number. But we think that it won't renumber automatically if we insert another layout in the middle of a drawing set. Suppose we have four existing drawings (ie E01, E02, E03, E04), and twenty sketch drawings starting S05, and say 100 Working drawings prefixed 'W'. If we add another 'E' type drawing, we will have to remember to renumber the 'S' group to start with 06 instead of 05, and the 'W' group, and any other group that follows. Hopefully it will then renumber all the layouts in the group.
Kees

Re: Drawing Numbering

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:41:59 GMT

KeesW wrote:
Thanks for your prompt reply - don't archicad users ever sleep!

Yes we can manually nominate a starting number. But we think that it won't renumber automatically if we insert another layout in the middle of a drawing set. Suppose we have four existing drawings (ie E01, E02, E03, E04), and twenty sketch drawings starting S05, and say 100 Working drawings prefixed 'W'. If we add another 'E' type drawing, we will have to remember to renumber the 'S' group to start with 06 instead of 05, and the 'W' group, and any other group that follows. Hopefully it will then renumber all the layouts in the group.
Kees

While it is true you would have to change the starting number of each subset, it is still much easier than erasing and re-lettering all of those sheets by hand. Anybody remember Kroy? oops... I actually meant Leroy. Kroy was much more advanced. The time saved depends on what you were used to before.