topic Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels in Documentation

Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Anonymous — Fri, 19 May 2023 13:21:35 GMT

It would be great to highlight labels that are associative/ independent and similarly dimensions that are static or have become disconnected.
This wish is connected somewhat to our detailing of mods, patches, annotation overlays where it's helpful to quickly audit a view to see what's accurate.
What I'm really looking for is what labels read element ID, and what dimensions are misplaced/ custom or broken.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:58:42 GMT

That can be done now for non-assoc Labels and Dims, the setting is "Annotation State"

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

runxel — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:40:47 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
That can be done now for non-assoc Labels and Dims, the setting is "Annotation State"

Yeah thats nice, but what I would like to have is a criteria to select all dims that have a custom text! This is not available at the moment – causing some pain!

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 22 Feb 2020 12:32:29 GMT

Let me just post a screenshot of the solution to the first question.
So, it is possible to create a Graphic Override Rule, which would take of Dimension and Level Dimension type elements, the "Annotation State" of which is "Static". This means those Level Dimension elements the "Static Level" toggle of which is ON. It also means those Dimension elements the "Static Dimension" toggle of which is ON, and even those Dimension elements where you have selected one or more Dimension Points of a Dimension Chain and toggled the "Static Dimension" toggle ON only for those Dimension Points. So if at least one Dimension Point of a Dimension element is "Static", the criteria will be met.

The Override Rule in this example overrides the Pen of the whole Dimension to Red. The reason it overrides the whole Dimension element is because Graphic Overrides can only override whole elements, they cannot override only parts or individual Components of an element.

About the second wish: that would be great as well.
We would need another Criteria in the Graphic Override Criteria Panel. It should be called "Dimension Text" or similar, and its two possible states should be "Measured Value" or "Custom Text".

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:07:26 GMT

This is great! Thanks for the info.
These little checks make my life so much easier.
Best of luck on the second point.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:11:10 GMT

Yes, that is a wish, because currently it is not possible to do, there is no Graphic Override Rule criterion for it.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:48:42 GMT

Hi All,

I hope you are doing well in these trying times!

Thank you very much for sharing your wish!

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it into our WishList database (please refer to it as Wish #12714). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you all once more, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Stress Co_ — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:02 GMT

runxel wrote:
Yeah thats nice, but what I would like to have is a criteria to select all dims that have a custom text! This is not available at the moment – causing some pain!

Workaround.
As a rule. When I change a dimension from "measured" to "custom",
I also change the text pen to one which is Red in my View pen set
and black in Layout pen set.
I can always see which dimensions are custom.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Anonymous — Wed, 06 May 2020 21:07:05 GMT

Sounds a lot more friendly than banning custom or static dimensions with the threat of cutting people's fingers off.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 06 May 2020 21:29:57 GMT

DWilson wrote:
Sounds a lot more friendly than banning custom or static dimensions with the threat of cutting people's fingers off.

Actually no.
Finger cutting is a lot less stressful.

Re: Graphic override - associative dimensions and labels

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:08:57 GMT

runxel wrote:

ejrolon wrote:
That can be done now for non-assoc Labels and Dims, the setting is "Annotation State"
Yeah, that's nice, but what I would like to have is a criterion to select all dims that have a custom text! This is not available at the moment – causing some pain!

Another user just posted a workflow for visualizing Dimensions the values of which were modified from their measured values. It is not a Find & Select or Graphic Override solution, but it is helpful:

https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=71274