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Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 01:08:34 GMT

Have this issue and have no idea how to fix it.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Dontknow — Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:55:11 GMT

Story levels in your sections set by the sections settings are made by your Story Settings.
In your Story Settings you can turn them on or off individually.

What you could do is to make your text smaller or turn on off and make one of your own on a different location with the dimension tool.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:35:09 GMT

I'm having the same issue as well and don't want to note everything in each view - is there an auto stagger for the story level lines like with the grid elements?

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:37:23 GMT

Why do you have two stories so close together?

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:30:14 GMT

Because sometimes you have a building with numerous additions and different architectural story heights for the same "Level".

You could also have part of a building higher for the same level such as a mezzanine or penthouse

I think the auto stagger and display options of the stories would be a great add.
If you are trying to automatically show the right benchmarks for building sections, wall sections and elevations.

It would be nice to have an option similar to the grid tool display options for elevation & section and have an option to display the right story.

Erika wrote:
Why do you have two stories so close together?

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:47:31 GMT

In my case I'm showing T.O. Roof Structure and then T.O. Low and High Parapets so they overlap on 1/8" = 1'-0" drawings.

I can also see how it could be beneficial in instances where you'd want to show both T.O. Floor and a truss bearing height - but that may be something just to note in a section since it wouldn't be needed in elevations.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:51:13 GMT

I asked the question because problems encountered are sometimes a result of a person not using the program correctly e.g. Jmings' example.

vgodzb,
In your example, split-level and multi-level can be difficult, to say the least. There have been many discussions over the years about how best to handle these kinds of situations. Having 2 stories so close in height can cause other difficulties and I couldn't help but wonder if that was the best overall solution.

Re your suggestion of story level markers having the ability to offset similar to the grid tool, make a wish!

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 22:10:13 GMT

I'm curious as to why you feel that I'm using ArchiCAD "incorrectly"? In my experience, if you have datum lines you are working with, floor levels and parapet heights for example, you set them as story heights so you can link walls, etc... to said datum. That way if they change, you don't have to go and change every element to the new height.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 13:25:47 GMT

jmings,

Have you used Vectorworks before using ARCHICAD?
The reason I am asking is because in my experience this is something Vectorworks offers: level you can define for design layers so that an element placed on the given layers will be located at the vertical level of that layer (with an optional offset value).
This is fine, it is just a different approach. However, this is not available in ARCHICAD so in ARCHICAD it is better to define only as many Stories as your building actually has and specify element heights relative to those (and avoid defining Story levels within the actual Stories of the building). If the value of these levels change you can rather easily select all elements at the level in the 3D Window and change their vertical value.
Different applications offer different capabilities.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Erika Epstein — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:51:06 GMT

Jmings,
Story levels are just that, for defining a building's stories, floor to floor heights. Tops of parapets, walls etc are just that, not a separate story. You can use labels to call out these types of [level] dimensions.
HTH

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Polar Bear — Sat, 06 Nov 2021 16:54:45 GMT

I am having the same problem. Coming from Revit, the elevations levels are fully adjustable. Why we like to link certain element to it, for exemple, concrete lintel in a stabilised earth building: to adjust levels as design progresses (BIM basic function).

So i guest it's a work around to "hide" the elevation or simply not use them for mid-way structural elements.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 07 Nov 2021 00:23:39 GMT

There is a free Story Marker which I think will solve this issue. It looks like it is already updated for AC25, with previous versions also available:

https://www.indigofigs.com/story-marker/

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Ignacio Azpiazu — Sun, 07 Nov 2021 01:39:18 GMT

Not free.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 07 Nov 2021 04:09:34 GMT

Ah, OK, sorry, I remembered that it used to be free, seems like it is no longer the case.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Ignacio Azpiazu — Sun, 07 Nov 2021 05:29:00 GMT

Realised post-facto: previous versions (up to AC24) are free. I don't know if there is anything in the script stopping one from using the AC24 title on AC25. In any case, it is free for AC24.

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Polar Bear — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 20:03:28 GMT

Thanks a lot!

Re: Elevation levels overlapping. How to adjust them?

Polar Bear — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 20:18:10 GMT

I have looked at the indigo marker, and even that isn't so easy grab and aranged. I was looking at a revit like easiness of customizing the level marker...