topic Re: Plan label for room height? in Documentation

Plan label for room height?

Mats_Knutsson — Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:15:46 GMT

Hi,
I'm struggling with the labels to get a working room height label to use in plan view. Room heoght in this case is top of flooring to bottom of suspended ceiling. It works fine when using slab or the ceiling object but I also like to use roofs and CWs for suspended ceilings and then I'm stuck with the room height. Any ideas how to get around this?
/Mats

Re: Plan label for room height?

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 17:41:40 GMT

I am a bit confused about how you are trying to accomplish this.

Are you using a Label? Or the Level Dimensioning Tool? Or display this info in the Zone Stamp?
As far as I know Labels cannot display Zone data since they cannot be associated with them. And you are talking about a plan label.

Can you post images of when this works and when it doesn't?

Re: Plan label for room height?

Mats_Knutsson — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:40:12 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
I am a bit confused about how you are trying to accomplish this.

Are you using a Label? Or the Level Dimensioning Tool? Or display this info in the Zone Stamp?
As far as I know Labels cannot display Zone data since they cannot be associated with them. And you are talking about a plan label.

Can you post images of when this works and when it doesn't?

Here's a pic. The elevation label works for slabs and the ceiling editor object where the label is showing ID and room height. For CW the elevation shown is to center of the panel which will be wrong since the mullions/frames will protract downwards. The roof can't use the elevation label and if I instead use the level dimension it show the height for the top of the roof. I want the ID of the suspended ceiling and the room height. I'm not really sure how to solve this.
/Mats

R.I.P Bowie

Re: Plan label for room height?

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:06:52 GMT

I see what you are trying to do.

In case of the Curtain Wall Tool make sure that the Reference Surface is at 2.500 (the Base Offset to Home Story value set in the Geometry and Positioning panel of the Curtain Wall Settings Dialog's Curtain Wall System page). Then the Label will display the correct values.

In case of Roofs: the way the Elevation Label is written (correctly I assume) is that it does not apply to Roofs because which point of the Roof do you measure. So the appropriate lines are commented out in the macro script that is supposed to return the Bottom elevation values.
I checked the Label script and saw that with some scripting modification it can be made to work.
So I modified the script of the Elevation Label and one of the macros it calls that creates the content of the Label. You can find it in the attached ZIP file. Place the two files in the Embedded Library, reload libraries and the "Elevation Label 19_NL" Label will become available in the list of Labels.

What the Label now does is it checks whether the Label is associated with a Roof and if it is, it disables the "Top Elevation of" fields because they are not relevant for Roof (they cannot return a value that would make sense). It will also display a bit of info to the right of the Bottom Elevation fields saying that in case the Roof has a Zero degree slope the Elevation value of the Pivot Line will be returned (which is basically on the bottom horizontal surface of the Roof in this case). If the slope is different from zero degrees, the displayed value will not be correct because again you will not know for sure which point of the sloped bottom the displayed value applies to.

With any other element types the Top Elevation fields will work as before and this little Note will not be displayed either.

I also modified it so that it shows in the Information panel that the Label is now available for Roofs.

I hope this solves your issues.

Re: Plan label for room height?

canvea — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 14:35:44 GMT

I have the same issue in AC23, all these years later. I can't locate any "reference surface" choices other than "panel center" (I don't have any frames, only panels, in my suspended ceiling). I would like the height tag / height label to correspond to the bottom surface of the panels and not the center. Is there a way to achieve this?