topic Re: Different Level Problem in Documentation

Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 10:22:02 GMT

When I measure the plan at different floor heights, it measures as if it were at the same level. The interesting thing is there's nothing on the lower floor. Including the stairs. But there's actually a difference.

Re: Different Level Problem

Steve Jepson — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:08:27 GMT

zsvnc wrote:
When I measure the plan at different floor heights, it measures as if it were at the same level. The interesting thing is there's nothing on the lower floor. Including the stairs. But there's actually a difference.

You will need to clarify that question. Are you talking about using the Level Dimension Tool?

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 07:21:50 GMT

Steve wrote:
zsvnc wrote:
When I measure the plan at different floor heights, it measures as if it were at the same level. The interesting thing is there's nothing on the lower floor. Including the stairs. But there's actually a difference.
You will need to clarify that question. Are you talking about using the Level Dimension Tool?

I put "level dimension" on the tiles at different heights. But it seems to be the same value. Actually, someone has to be "+ 3.00" and the other one should normally be "0.00." But the "level dimension" seems to be the same value wherever I put it.

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 07:30:13 GMT

Steve wrote:
zsvnc wrote:
When I measure the plan at different floor heights, it measures as if it were at the same level. The interesting thing is there's nothing on the lower floor. Including the stairs. But there's actually a difference.
You will need to clarify that question. Are you talking about using the Level Dimension Tool?

Re: Different Level Problem

David Maudlin — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:26:13 GMT

zsvnc:

To use the Level Dimension Tool, the Slab must be on a visible Layer, you need to select the Slab option under Gravity, and you need to place it on the Slab. In your screen shot it looks like you are trying to place it in the void over the space below.

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:28:43 GMT

David wrote:
zsvnc:

To use the Level Dimension Tool, the Slab must be on a visible Layer, you need to select the Slab option under Gravity, and you need to place it on the Slab. In your screen shot it looks like you are trying to place it in the void over the space below.

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

You understand the problem correctly but it didn't work.. I dont know why?

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:32:39 GMT

"David Maudlin" wrote:
zsvnc:

To use the Level Dimension Tool, the Slab must be on a visible Layer, you need to select the Slab option under Gravity, and you need to place it on the Slab. In your screen shot it looks like you are trying to place it in the void over the space below.

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

Re: Different Level Problem

Link — Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:25:08 GMT

Level Dimensions are for plan only. You need to use the Linear Dimension set to Elevation type when working in elevations and sections.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Different Level Problem

Barry Kelly — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:19:24 GMT

The level dimension tool will only 'lock' to a slab, roof, mesh or shell in the plan view.
It will not dimension anything else (such as stair treads) or if there is a void.

In version 21 there is no need to use gravity - it is automatic.
Although gravity tool can be used if you have overlapping elements (roof & slab) - but TAB works just as well (you must have quick selection active (magnet for selecting - or use SPACBAR).

In earlier versions you do need to activate the gravity tool.

Barry.

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 04:36:40 GMT

Thank you very much for all your help. I found to add level dimension. My rpbolem was about "Floor Plan Display > Show on Stories > Home & One Story Up & Down".

So how can we add a level dimension on stairs landing?

Re: Different Level Problem

Barry Kelly — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 05:53:38 GMT

zsvnc wrote:
So how can we add a level dimension on stairs landing?

You can't unless you model the landing with a slab.

You can place a level dimension and then edit the text so that it is 'Custom' text rather than 'Measured Value'.

Barry.

Re: Different Level Problem

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:23:25 GMT

I guess the developers did not have the time to develop this functionality as well for ARCHICAD 21. Hopefully they will keep adding features and Level Dimensioning will work on Stairs as well in the future.

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:32:29 GMT

Barry wrote:
zsvnc wrote:
So how can we add a level dimension on stairs landing?
You can't unless you model the landing with a slab.

You can place a level dimension and then edit the text so that it is 'Custom' text rather than 'Measured Value'.

Barry.

I just started learning Arhicad. But these things break my motivation. I just want to build the architectural project faster than AutoCAD. How can you not have such simple features? Another point is, there are no books about Archicad. Isn't that a little unreasonable? is Revit more useful to draw architectural projects? What do you think?

Re: Different Level Problem

Barry Kelly — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:56:25 GMT

zsvnc wrote:
I just started learning Arhicad. But these things break my motivation. I just want to build the architectural project faster than AutoCAD. How can you not have such simple features? Another point is, there are no books about Archicad. Isn't that a little unreasonable? is Revit more useful to draw architectural projects? What do you think?

It becomes hard when you start comparing one program to another.
They all work a little differently and all have features that are better and worse than other programs.
For 3D modelling and documentation I have only ever used Archicad - so it would be unfair of me to try and comment about other programs and which is better.

It also depends on what you are trying to output.
Personally I have never had the need to put a spot level on a stair landing, but maybe that is because I am only involved in residential work.

There are plenty of tutorials and how to guides and movies out there.
Some by Graphisoft and others by individuals who just share the information.
Much of it will not be specific to what you are actually trying to produce so will be generic in content and may not show every method for doing what you want.
Some individuals have businesses offering training which can be tailored to your specific needs but of course you will need to stump up a little money to get that kind of help.

Archicad is a pretty steep learning curve - more so now that is has so many new features compared to when I stated some 20 years ago.
The best way to learn if you can is to sit down with someone else who knows it well.

Barry.

Re: Different Level Problem

Erwin Edel — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:06:25 GMT

If you can take a training course, I can really recommend that.

The people we've had join our company (even interns) were sent off to do the basic 3 day course and are so much more productive than sitting side by side with someone here. I should mention our reseller offers the course for free to interns though, but still it is a great way to get at least the basic skills to start modelling in ArchiCAD. At that point the veteran users can share knowledge about tricky modelling or in depth tips, instead of explaining how to dimension walls or something like that.

Personally I was thrown in at the deep end and it took me a year or more to get a feeling of real productiveness and this was with ArchiCAD9, with all the features these days I would imagine it is only worse.

If you are completely new to ArchiCAD as a whole, the youtube tutorials (I think there are 3 or 4 series) are a good start to get familiar with ArchiCAD, though some of them are already on older versions (last time I checked), so you run in to differences in the user interface on the newer version v.s. the one shown in the youtube video.

Re: Different Level Problem

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:05:21 GMT

zsvnc wrote:
I just started learning Archicad. But these things break my motivation. I just want to build the architectural project faster than AutoCAD. How can you not have such simple features? Another point is, there are no books about Archicad. Isn't that a little unreasonable? is Revit more useful to draw architectural projects? What do you think?

Do not get discouraged by the difficulty of learning a new BIM application.
I remember when I first started using ARCHICAD I really did not like it. I used AutoCAD before that. After a while I realized that the reason for disliking it was that it was SO MUCH different from my previous CAD system, AutoCAD and I didn't like that fact that in many cases I had to start from scratch in relearning all the concepts of this new application. But when I started to get the hang of it I started to realize how much more productive it is and how much more potential it has.

This is the ARCHICAD Training Series Erwin is talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Archicad/playlists?shelf_id=17&view=50&sort=dd

Re: Different Level Problem

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:14:39 GMT

Everyone around me using AutoCAD. I constantly work with Archicad and want to learn this program. But it's really hard to switch from AutoCAD, especially. I wish I'd learned when I was a student. Thank you all very much. You've been very helpful to me. I am preparing an application project in Turkish standards. The laws and regulations are different here. I think Archicad is more of a European standard. So I'm making progress very slowly and this situation is annoying. Revit's been very confusing with me interface. But wherever I look, there's a source of Revit. I wish there were more written or visual resources related to Archicad. The Archicad videos on Youtube are so messy.