topic Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame" in Documentation

Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

dcerezo — Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:14:08 GMT

Hey all,

I updated to AC 23 and I noticed that when I resize Drawings on my Sheets, I keep getting this "Update to Frame" or "Full Update" when I resize the frame. How do I turn that off? I don't remember this ever happening in AC22 and prior to that.

Thanks!

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

James B — Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:15:22 GMT

Check this video on YouTube

It is a new feature of AC23 to reduce file size and improve performance.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

dcerezo — Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:48:14 GMT

Thanks James!

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Jeff Kogut — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:43:38 GMT

I need a global work environment setting to disable all this BS. It just slows down the process more than the 1.5 seconds it takes to rebuild the model. I'm not drawing Olympic stadiums over here.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:05:26 GMT

Jeff, maybe you should make a wish for this, in which you could explain the reasons why you think such an option should be implemented. Then we can vote on it and if it gets enough support, we can submit it to GRAPHISOFT for consideration.
If you do make a wish, please post its link in this thread.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Frillex — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:37:23 GMT

Did you ever make a wish for it?

I'm on your side Jeff.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

James B — Thu, 31 Mar 2022 06:22:41 GMT

To turn off this crop feature, you can uncheck "Crop Drawing to Frame" in the Drawing Settings, under Frame.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Barry Kelly — Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:13:49 GMT

So you can select all drawings in the Drawing Manager and turn this setting off for all of them at once.

Then don't forget to turn it off in the default settings for the drawing tool, then all new drawings you place will have the setting you want.

Barry.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Frillex — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 06:53:52 GMT

I'll check this out right away!

So much to learn.. 🙂

Thanks

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

DGSketcher — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 08:44:21 GMT

@James B Slightly different take on this. I agree with @Jeff Kogut but I don't think the issue is how to turn off the cropping, I think it is something AC should manage automatically. AC should remove the need for user intervention. That way GS see the speed improvements and the user doesn't have to respond to disruptive questions. Every time I see this prompt the answer is Yes, so why ask?

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

DGSketcher — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 08:57:34 GMT

These guides are usually very helpful but I just glazed over after about 2 mins of constantly hearing the word crop... The only point of note was the potential need to rebuild a cropped view from an external source.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

James B — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 10:55:19 GMT

We want to avoid holding up the user with an automatic update. So we give you the control when you are ready.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

DGSketcher — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:24:18 GMT

But for what I assume is the majority of us on simpler projects, todays processors probably can redraw quicker than it takes to respond to the update request. If you still think it is needed then as @Jeff Kogut suggested, please give us an option in the Work Environment to still crop / update but have AC stop asking.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

Barry Kelly — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 15:01:29 GMT

@DGSketcher wrote:

If you still think it is needed then as @Jeff Kogut suggested, please give us an option in the Work Environment to still crop / update but have AC stop asking.

As James said, uncheck "Crop Drawing to Frame" in the Drawing Settings.

Make sure the default settings for the drawing tool is set the same way.

You might want to check your template as well and re-save that with this setting turned off.

You can then still crop the frames just as in previous versions, but you won't be prompted with the message now as hidden (cropped) part of the drawing will always be there in the background (adding to your file size and possibly affecting performance).

I guess it could have been turned of by default, but then as a new feature, probably no one would then use it.

But at least we all have the choice as to whether we want to use this feature or not simply by changing the default tool setting and the settings of any placed drawings.

Its not a Work Environment on/off option, but it can be done, and should only need to be done once for your template and all future jobs.

Barry.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

DGSketcher — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 16:28:01 GMT

@Barry Kelly wrote:
You can then still crop the frames just as in previous versions, but you won't be prompted with the message now as hidden (cropped) part of the drawing will always be there in the background (adding to your file size and possibly affecting performance).

And there lies the issue. We're given the wonderful choice of being nagged by the redraw / update request or having bloated & slow files because having a switch to ignore the update requests and proceed automatically with the redraw seems to be a problem for GS? I use cropping a lot to extract various parts of plan views. Expanding the areas and continuously seeing these redraw requests is an unnecessary interruption that disrupts the workflow. I thought we were supposed to be working towards AC being simpler & more efficient? Well this is a nice simple test for that commitment...

( @James B )

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

TBuildConsultants — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 06:42:38 GMT

This was very helpful.

Thank you mate.

Re: Why do I keep getting "Update to Frame"

jl_lt — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 12:55:56 GMT

Im also with you Jeff, one hundred percent.

I understand why they did this, but not having a global switch for this is both incomprehensible and regretable