topic Re: Scale sensitivity change in Documentation

Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:22:50 GMT

Is there a way to either edit the scale options to closer meet up to American drawing standards? IE instead of 1:50, 1:100, 1:200 go to 1:48, 1:96, etc?

Or, is there a way to set the existing scales to 'closest' instead of rounding up?

My issue is showing plan sets at 1/8" scale and 3/16" scale (1:96 and 1:64) ends up with the same scale sensitive setting (1:100).

Thanks

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Lingwisyer — Tue, 18 May 2021 01:35:24 GMT

Change your working units to imperial an use the actual fractional scales?

Options => Project Preferences => Working Units

Ling.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2021 13:46:03 GMT

My working units are set to imperial, but this doesn't change the scale factors. These ratios seem independent and fixed at 1:50, 1:100 and 1:200 regardless of the drawing units.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Podolsky — Tue, 18 May 2021 14:30:28 GMT

Do you mean - scale sensitivity in GDL objets - like zones and labels?

If yes, then it's a problem of Imperial ArchiCAD Library (USA?). I don't know who is suppose to deal with that - is it responsibility of Graphisoft USA, or adaptations by countries are all done in Hungary...
But there is also possibility to fix these GDL objects, as GDL scripting is not so complicated. Maybe local distributors can help with this issue - I mean to re-write needed GDL objects?

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2021 14:50:53 GMT

Yes to scale sensitivity in GDL objects.

The easiest fix for my current issue would be to find if there is a setting for 'closest matching ratio' or whatever the correct language is. Having the 1:64 ratio match to Archicad's 1:50 in this case.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Wed, 19 May 2021 21:47:23 GMT

Is there a way to adjust how the drawing scale relates to the scale sensitivity? So that 3/16" scale (1:64) gets the 1:50 scale sensitivity settings?

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Podolsky — Thu, 20 May 2021 05:59:58 GMT

I don't really understand what do you mean by drawing scale? Scale bar object?

Could you post screenshots what the problem is? I hope we can help here to solve.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Lingwisyer — Thu, 20 May 2021 08:04:28 GMT

So objects such as the Zone Stamp which display different information depending on the scale, will adjust for the relevant imperial scale?

Ideally, your local distributor would include their own objects for each of these cases...

Ling.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Thu, 20 May 2021 21:15:18 GMT

Ling - yes that sounds right. I have reached out for help but not a lot of support on this side.

I have two images attached. They are at different imperial scales, but for example the zone stamp location is the same for each. Text will react to the scale difference, but gdl objects set at the archicad scales of 1:50, 1:100, etc will not.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Podolsky — Thu, 20 May 2021 21:28:04 GMT

This problem is possible to fix in GDL and it's not really complicated.
I mean - I can do it and I need for that maximum a day.

What I don't understand - why Graphisoft USA do not do that? USA is a big market for ArchiCAD, they must have headquarter there and responsible people, who is fixing USA library.

So, you have two options: 1. Ask me to fix it and tell me, which objects are problematic.
2. Push local distributors to contact headquarter and ask them to fix this problem. Local distributors sometimes just selling ArchiCAD and are not involved into such global things as errors fixing. But it's direct responsibility of Graphisoft USA.

Re: Scale sensitivity change question

Anonymous — Fri, 21 May 2021 18:48:45 GMT

Hi everyone
i have a question with zone stamp,in 21 ARC version,I saw they have a content order scale,but in another build of 21 ARC version,it doesn't appear,and the other latest version 23 , same the problem,the content order doest have too,
Can you guys explain to me why they happened and which effect on it, and is it impossible to adjust it in GLD?
Thanks alot

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Podolsky — Fri, 21 May 2021 20:29:58 GMT

I'm not sure that there is a problem in these screenshots. On the left side you are showing "Settings" - i.e. UI generated via GDL, and on the right "Zone Stamp" with parameters. So, if you choose "Settings" on the right, you probably will see the same as on the left.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 24 May 2021 22:17:20 GMT

Also, from your screenshots, it is visible that one Zone Stamp is from Archicad 21, while the other one is from Archicad 23.
So, the scripts of the two Zone Stamps are probably different. Although the name of the 2 Zone Stamps is the same, it was probably rewritten between AC21 and AC23, this is why they behave differently.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Thu, 27 May 2021 22:09:24 GMT

I don't think graphisoft north america is interested in the scale sensitivity issue.

They've offered a 20 minute coaching for $50 as their only solution.

I can come up with a workaround, but it seems like there is no ideal solution for now. Thanks for the help.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 27 May 2021 22:14:19 GMT

fadllc,

What is your question?

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:15:00 GMT

See my original posts for clarity, but I suppose the best temporary fix would be to understand how to edit the scale sensitivity of gdl objects so that they can be associated with 'closest' instead of 'next highest.'

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Podolsky — Fri, 28 May 2021 17:31:59 GMT

You need to edit the GDL code or ask someone to do it for you. There is no possibilities to change it just by changing parameters in user interface or somewhere in ArchiCAD system.
Library objects are small independent programs, written on GDL - BASIC-like programming language.

Re: Scale sensitivity change

Anonymous — Fri, 28 May 2021 18:54:09 GMT

If someone wants to do this for fun, it's just the 02 24 Zone Stamp.

I don't know anything about editing GDL code to figure it out.

Thanks