topic Re: how to set the renovation filter in Documentation

how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 19 May 2023 13:33:20 GMT

This is so frustrating. I am modeling an (e) house and set the Renovation Filter to Existing but every single wall, floor, stair, window, door, toilet, sink, line, text, label, etc is set for something else and doesn't sho correctly till I go back into the file and change it's setting...one at a timr.

Isn't there a way to globally tell this program that everything I am doing is EXISTING... that all library parts are EXISTING, to have to reset each thing is a waste of time and at the other end of the project, if I didn't set a couple of items, my views dont' display correctly...

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Aaron Bourgoin — Fri, 22 May 2015 21:43:56 GMT

use the 3D window and the "Edit Selection Set Tool" Should be a lot quicker.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:03:23 GMT

Aaron wrote:
use the 3D window and the "Edit Selection Set Tool" Should be a lot quicker.

Did that , but when placing new windows, doors, etc have to go back into the toos after they are placed and change them to existing. All I want to do is have a button to tell AC that I am building Existing on the Renovation filter, not to every tool twice once to put the window in, and again to set it for Existing...

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Aaron Bourgoin — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:05:08 GMT

okay.

then make sure you have the Renovation palette open and the proper status picked as you place objects.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

rob2218 — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:39:51 GMT

good response.....OP...did this resolve your issue?
Think of the renovation filter as the "pline". If you start a pline and it has an arrow, or certain linetype....and you complete your pline command. The next time you select "pline" again......it will place a pline with an arrow head and the linetype of the "LAST" pline you placed. I know, abit odd to not have a default but the "default" is the last command that specific function used.

Same for reno filters......I think. Guru's is this not the case?

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:39:52 GMT

Aaron wrote:
okay.

then make sure you have the Renovation palette open and the proper status picked as you place objects.

and do the same thiing over and over and over.ad naseum..what I am asking is how to tell this tool what I want, not the other way around...

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:42:37 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
good response.....OP...did this resolve your issue?
Think of the renovation filter as the "pline". If you start a pline and it has an arrow, or certain linetype....and you complete your pline command. The next time you select "pline" again......it will place a pline with an arrow head and the linetype of the "LAST" pline you placed. I know, abit odd to not have a default but the "default" is the last command that specific function used.

Same for reno filters......I think. Guru's is this not the case?

it does not work like that, I know what you are saying, but the renovation filter DOES NOT TAKE A SETTING FROM ONE WINDOW TO THE NEXT, EACH TIME IT HAS TO BE SET.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

rob2218 — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:49:36 GMT

hum....so, then if you had to place windows in say..."existing" renovation filter...all the time....then what you are saying is that it switches back to some other renovation filter?

I've found that with renovation filters, sometimes the naming conventions of the renovations filters themselves, if not out of the box, and are "customized" per the office naming convention, throws parameters out of whack.

For example, if you have "renovation filters" that have a " | " (bar) in the naming convention, then Archicad has a hard time exporting those filters out to an XML file. So I know there are some nuainces (sp?) that may cause reno filters to misbehave.

GLWT.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 22 May 2015 22:56:50 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
hum....so, then if you had to place windows in say..."existing" renovation filter...all the time....then what you are saying is that it switches back to some other renovation filter?

I've found that with renovation filters, sometimes the naming conventions of the renovations filters themselves, if not out of the box, and are "customized" per the office naming convention, throws parameters out of whack.

For example, if you have "renovation filters" that have a " | " (bar) in the naming convention, then Archicad has a hard time exporting those filters out to an XML file. So I know there are some nuainces (sp?) that may cause reno filters to misbehave.

GLWT.

What I am saying: I set the Renovation filter to Existing. I pick a window, set it up to what I want, place it in a wall. It does not show, only the outline of the window shows, I then have to select that window, open it up and set the renovation setting to Existing,,,,then, only then does the window show. Have to do this for every window, door, toilet, roof, line... WHAT I AM SAYING IS THE EVEN THOUGH I SET THE RENOVATION FILTER TO EXISTING...I HAVE TO AGAIN GO INTO WHATEVER TOOL I USED AND TELL IT TO BE ON EXISTING....
even though when setting up my file i set the Renovation tool to Existing....

What I would like is for me to be able to dictate my settings when I set up the file so that I don't waste time doing everything twice....

why don't you try it...if you can set your renovation filter to Existing and place windows that show properly...please tell me how you did it.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Fri, 22 May 2015 23:18:54 GMT

ok, using the pull down menu in documents, scroll to the renovation filter, set it to existing.

draw a wall, open the wall tool, scroll down to renovation status...see that it is set for demo, change it to existing and to show on all revelant filters. Magic wand that wall, draw another wall, open the wall tool, scroll down to renovation status...see that it is set for demo, change it to existing and to show on all revelant filters. Magic wand that wall, draw another wall, open the wall tool, scroll down to renovation status...see that it is set for demo.

same for windows, lines, toilets everything...what I am asking is how to change this default to existing so I do not have to do this over and over....

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Richard Morrison — Sat, 23 May 2015 00:46:32 GMT

The renovation FILTER only controls the display of what has been set already. You use the DEFAULT setting button to control the object when you're drawing. If you've got it set to Existing, then anything you draw will end up as Existing. And BTW, you can use these same default buttons to CHANGE the phase of an element.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Sat, 23 May 2015 00:53:12 GMT

Richard wrote:
The renovation FILTER only controls the display of what has been set already. You use the DEFAULT setting button to control the object when you're drawing. If you've got it set to Existing, then anything you draw will end up as Existing. And BTW, you can use these same default buttons to CHANGE the phase of an element.

Then either my AC18 program and/or the Bobrow Template has a bug that does not agree with want you pointed out. I will be trouble shooting this, but can reproduce the problem over and over, so I know it isn't me.

I set everything in the renovation tool to show, to be existing, but when I choose a wall, window, toilet...they all have their own settings which default to demo.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Richard Morrison — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:03:30 GMT

So they will have the status of whatever they were drawn as. They were drawn with the Demo Default button on. You can do a shift-A in a 3D view and select everything in the model, and change to Existing. (unlock all layers, of course) Will take about 10 secs. Then make sure the default button is set to Existing before you draw anything else. Then pick everything that will be demolished and press the Demo Default Button. Change the default button to New when you start drawing the new construction.

It's possible that the template objects were drawn with the Demo Status on. If you are eyedroppering things, the Status is probably getting picked up, too.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:06:35 GMT

Richard wrote:
So they will have the status of whatever they were drawn as. They were drawn with the Demo Default button on. You can do a shift-A in a 3D view and select everything in the model, and change to Existing. (unlock all layers, of course) Will take about 10 secs. Then make sure the default button is set to Existing before you draw anything else. Then pick everything that will be demolished and press the Demo Default Button. Change the default button to New when you start drawing the new construction.

It's possible that these were drawn with the Demo Status on. If you are eyedroppering things, the Status is probably getting picked up, too.

where is this default button that you are talking about, please

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Richard Morrison — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:07:43 GMT

Look at my image a few posts up. It has a big red arrow pointing to it.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:10:01 GMT

Richard wrote:
Look at my image a few posts up. It has a big red arrow pointing to it.

that particular picture has nothing to do with the AC18 I have, have never seen that pallette...ah, you are in AC17, I am in 18...could this be the problem here.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Richard Morrison — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:17:11 GMT

You need to turn on the Renovation Palette. (It is under the Window menu). The Renovation drop-down menu only controls the DISPLAY. You cannot control what status an object is placed on with it.

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:21:29 GMT

Richard wrote:
You need to turn on the Renovation Palette. (It is under the Window menu). The Renovation drop-down menu only controls the DISPLAY. You cannot control what status an object is placed on with it.

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Re: how to set the renovation filter

Richard Morrison — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:22:44 GMT

The Help Center can be your friend: http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-18-int-reference-guide/user-interface-reference/controls/renovation-palette/

Re: how to set the renovation filter

Anonymous — Sat, 23 May 2015 01:25:05 GMT

Richard wrote:
The Help Center can be your friend: http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-18-int-reference-guide/user-interface-reference/controls/renovation-palette/

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