topic Re: Extra Lines in Elevations in Documentation

Extra Lines in Elevations

toman311 — Tue, 23 May 2023 01:08:06 GMT

So, I drew a 3D model and I am trying to pull exterior elevations from it. I used morphs to draw the gutters. These gutters have extra lines in them that cannot be there in the elevations. These lines are from using the morph tool and not from any details.

I added two photos. One shows the lines and the other is a 3D view showing what this part of the building looks like.

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

Dave Seabury — Fri, 27 May 2016 21:49:47 GMT

Toman

I have had the same thing, it is a line that is added when editing a face
of your morph. Try selecting the morph, right click on the mouse and convert to morph. Some times, not always, the line goes away.

David

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

Richard Morrison — Sat, 28 May 2016 00:06:59 GMT

If a morph, you might also try choosing the hidden or soft edges button in the dialog box.

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

David Maudlin — Sat, 28 May 2016 12:26:05 GMT

Toman:

Use can use the Sub-Element Selection (hold down Control & Shift, Arrow turns white) to just select the line, then change it from Hard to Hidden.

David

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

David Shorter — Mon, 30 May 2016 12:01:52 GMT

Perhaps the Morph tool is not the best tool for the job.
I would use a complex beam to create this profile, much more suitable and much easier

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

toman311 — Tue, 31 May 2016 21:39:01 GMT

David wrote:
Perhaps the Morph tool is not the best tool for the job.
I would use a complex beam to create this profile, much more suitable and much easier

I tried a complex beam of the gutter, but the two won't join cleanly where they meet at the point in the roof. The morph is the only way I managed to get a clean model, but there are those lines in the elevations. The only solution I can think of is to place a fill or a white line over those lines. I haven't tried this at the moment.

These gutters at this area of that roof creates weirds angles for the gutters. They need to be at angles which are not 90 degrees on the x, y, & z axes. This doesn't allow them to joint cleanly where the two sides of the roof gutters meet I suppose. See image for a view on the problem when using a complex beam.

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

Richard Morrison — Tue, 31 May 2016 22:01:38 GMT

ArchiCAD is showing you that there is a geometrical problem here. Is faking it with a Morph really the best approach? Will the sheet metal contractor have a saw that can cut Morphs?

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

toman311 — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:24:37 GMT

Richard wrote:
ArchiCAD is showing you that there is a geometrical problem here. Is faking it with a Morph really the best approach? Will the sheet metal contractor have a saw that can cut Morphs?

The problem is a possible problem to solve. The Morph tool is the only way that it can be modeled. This is an existing building. This is how the building has been built. I see this as an odd circumstance where a complex beam won't work. I have had another place on this project where the morph tool has been the answer when drawing in the gutter instead of using a complex beam. The problem always came down to how the complex beam joins with another complex beam. So, I use the morph tool and extrude the gutter along a line to get clean joins. In the situation which I have presented here, the Morph tool is leaving extra lines that shouldn't be there.

Re: Extra Lines in Elevations

David Shorter — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 06:54:44 GMT

I suspect the extra fine is there because the junctions cannot be obtained without twisting the face plane.(hence the additional line)
Its really difficult to comment sensibly without having the roof model to test the options