topic Re: How do I PAN in Documentation

How do I PAN

KeesW — Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:02:03 GMT

There is no PAN button on the bottom of my AC24 screen. There used to be a 'hand' labelled button but it is no longer there.

I've now noticed this because I used to depress the scroll wheel on my mouse. But I've just got a new computer and a K4 screen, and am reusing my trusty mouse and the scroll wheel no longer works. Instead, when I press it to PAN, it flips my layout up to the top left of my screen, at 1/4 of its original size. Any ideas?

No PAN button

Re: How do I PAN

Noemi Balogh — Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:53:29 GMT

Can you tell us which OS are you working on?

Also I would check what happens if you run a repair on Archicad or just simply switch to a different work environment profile.

Re: How do I PAN

KeesW — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:11:37 GMT

Thank you Noemi.

Changing to a different work environment profile has not worked.

I've now discovered that the wired mouse (and keyboard) which came with my new computer does respond as expected, with PAN operating from the scroll wheel. Hence, it must be setting in the old wireless MS 5000 mouse. But it worked with my old Dell computer - for over 10 years! Hence, I assume that it is a mouse setting that has not been transferred to the new computer.

I've accessed the Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Center to find where I could adjust the scroll wheel setting but don't know what the command is called. I've tried PAN but this is not listed in the available Archicad 24 settings for this mouse (even though it was working before).

I've also found a specific Scroll wheel PAN option in AC24 Input restraints and guides and selected it there without success.

Any further ideas would be appreciated.

Re: How do I PAN

Barry Kelly — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:17:36 GMT

Check you Windows Device settings and see if you can configure what the middle mouse button does.

Mine just uses the default Microsoft driver and has no control on the what the middle mouse button does - but the defaults seem fine for me.

You may have a setting somewhere that controls what your mouse buttons do.

Barry.

Re: How do I PAN

Lingwisyer — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:24:50 GMT

Your layout or your entire AC window?

Re: How do I PAN

Barry Kelly — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:14:49 GMT

@KeesW wrote:

I've accessed the Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Center to find where I could adjust the scroll wheel setting but don't know what the command is called. I've tried PAN but this is not listed in the available Archicad 24 settings for this mouse (even though it was working before).

I've also found a specific Scroll wheel PAN option in AC24 Input restraints and guides and selected it there without success.

I recall in the past when I was using Logitech mouse and driver software, I had to set the middle mouse button to 'middle mouse button' oddly enough for it to behave as expected in Archicad.

Barry.

Re: How do I PAN

Lingwisyer — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:22:09 GMT

middle mouse button / mb3

Re: How do I PAN

KeesW — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:37:50 GMT

The middle mouse button is a wheel. Pushing it doesn't work - which is the whole point of my question!

Re: How do I PAN

Barry Kelly — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 03:50:20 GMT

Yes it is a wheel but you have to set the middle mouse button as 'middle mouse button' so when you push it it acts as a button.

The scroll will still work.

Barry.

Re: How do I PAN

Lingwisyer — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 08:47:21 GMT

Does mb3 work outside of Archicad? Given the age of the mouse, might the switch for mb3 have died? If it is dead, could you use something like Autohotkey to emulate a mb3?

Re: How do I PAN

Erwin Edel — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:40:59 GMT

With my logitech mouse I use software called 'setpoint' to configure the buttons, as Barry pointed out.

However the wheel actually has several functions: scroll wheel, middle button and two 'side' buttons (left / right). I had to set the wheel to 'middle' button and turn off the 'left' and 'right' function of the wheel for it to behave.

Perhaps you have the same issue.

Re: How do I PAN

Lingwisyer — Thu, 21 Oct 2021 01:55:20 GMT

MS 5000 is a 5 button mouse, which I assume means it does not have tilt.

Re: How do I PAN

RikkeFO — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:27:37 GMT

Hi!

I am struggeling with a similar issue. My new computer (Lenovo), stupidly enough does not have that extra button (Pan button). It works when I use a logitech mouse, but sometimes I dont have that mouse with me.
THAT is when I miss the Pan-tool (the hand).
Did you figure out if it is possible to make a short cut or if the "hand" has returned ?