topic Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25 in Documentation

rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Jonathan Pelezzare — Sun, 12 Dec 2021 19:16:31 GMT

Hope everyone is doing great!

Opened a AC23 project in AC25 and everything is there except the pole and shelf part in all closets.

After an hour of trying everything I can think of... HELP PLEASE

Did they forget to include this part in the ac 25 lib? Can't find it and when I drag and drop

or load into libraries thru lib manager is comes in as an unsupported part.

Thank you, JP

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:02:12 GMT

I don't believe that is a standard library part? Might have been a 3rd party download. You can certainly model the rod/shelf as a complex profiled beam easily enough if you don't need to show the brackets

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:19:51 GMT

The standard (USA library) part is called "Shelf Rod xx" where xx is the version of AC. There is a Shelf Rod 25, but it is not the one I remember using years ago... the rod is so close the the shelf, nobody would ever be able to put hangers on it, so I'm not sure what the point of this object is. So, I'd personally still use a profiled beam or something similar.

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Aaron Bourgoin — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:24:39 GMT

Have a look for Randy Clarkston's "Closet EMK 12" object. Brilliant. Simple.

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Jonathan Pelezzare — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:10:39 GMT

Thanks Karl,

Guess it was a 3rd party item. When I first started using it had clothes hanging in 3D. Over the years the clothes went away somehow, but it was always a good symbol in plan view and still showed the pole and shelf in 3D well enough. Bummer, because as you can see in the screen shot it worked really well in plan being parametric and all.

Best,

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

jfaugustine — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:59:14 GMT

Here is a closet rod part I wrote a few years ago. (Sorry, no hanging clothes!)

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:59:40 GMT

There is a hanging clothes object in the 25 library. I think it is called hangers... which has a checkmark to show just the hangers, or random clothes on the hangers.

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:02:05 GMT

@Jonathan Pelezzare Here is the old thread with the closet object that Aaron mentions. In fact, over 8 years ago in that same thread, Aaron suggested a complex profiled beam, too. Thanks, Aaron 🙂

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Closet-Shelving/m-p/178409

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Jonathan Pelezzare — Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:29:58 GMT

Thanks guys for all the suggestions. Here's what I ended up doing:

Opened the project in 23 (skipped 24 all together this time I was behind 2 versions this time) selected all shelf & pole objects

in the house and grouped them sending a copy of all 750' to the right and did an explode keeping the original objects. then I those into morphs and then cut all the lines and morphs

and pasted them into the AC25. This way, I have a decent closet symbol in 2D/plan view & the sections should have a pole and shelf indicated. Not very happy with this work around especially when considering that I'll need to come up with something else when designing the next house.

Hopefully, there's a next house:-) Guess I'll have to draw the 2d symbol with lines and model the

pole and shelf (profile, slabs, etc.) Thanks again to all,

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Dec 2021 01:23:33 GMT

I am a little confused.

If the object is fine in version 23, just copy that object to your loaded library in 25 and re-load the library.

It should then work just as well as an object in 25.

Barry.

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Jonathan Pelezzare — Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:57:54 GMT

Hi Barry,

That's what I did and it comes in as an unsupported object.

Best, JP

Re: rod_shlf.gsm in 25

Barry Kelly — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 02:25:14 GMT

That is unusual.

I am not aware of any GDL changes that would make a 23 object no longer work in 25.

Maybe the object creator did something to make it available only to version 23?

Barry.