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Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Liamthanks — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 04:00:30 GMT

I am currently in the process of migrating my template into AC26 and the first thing I noticed was issues with my font and the way it is displayed on the screen.

It actually hurts my eyes to look at as the lines and text appear to be thicker / fuzzy when zoomed out. The text is also displaying a lot differently, sort of like it's a foreign font?

To me, the lines and text when viewed in 24 were a lot 'cleaner' and more 'crisp' however this is not the case in the 26. Is there a setting or anything I can adjust?

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

DGSketcher — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 05:54:11 GMT

I have noticed this happening in AC26 with non-orthogonal dimension lines on my 5k mac screen. I have also picked up that fonts aren’t handled the same, like small shifts distorting the text size according to application and font. I haven’t had a chance to test these distortions yet but I agree something has changed and not in a good way.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:43:27 GMT

I don't have a hi-res screen so maybe I am not affected so badly.

But there is definitely a different quality in the plans.

The menus, palettes and tool bars don't seem to be affected at all.

The plans are definitely not as crisp and clear.

I did complain about it in Beta testing and GS's response was that 2D ant-aliassing should be turned on by default now.

I have always worked with it off as I like to see the 'jaggy' lines when a wall is not quite horizontal or vertical.

Even with 2D anti-aliassing turned on in 26, it is still not as nice as 25.

In this image it is off in 25 (on the left) and on in 26 (on the right).

It just looks a bit fuzzy now.

Of course it clears up as you zoom in and I am hoping I won't notice it so much when I am not comparing them side by side, but I am really hoping that GS can do something about this sometime soon in the future.

But just the fact that many have noticed this, must mean there is something wrong.

Barry.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Liamthanks — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:44:36 GMT

Hey Barry!

Glad to see it's not just me then. That alone would be enough for me to stay on 25 for a bit longer as my eyes were hurting after 30 minutes, let alone hours on end.

Hopefully they sort it out in the next patch!

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

David Shorter — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:49:21 GMT

Interesting and definitely different. Whilst preview sees it as a font it doesn't know what 'type'

The font image in 26 is heavier. The overall file size is smaller in 24 but has more pixels

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:51:06 GMT

And I should have said, the image I posted is side by side on the same screen at the same time.

So there is no trickery going on.

I think everyone should make a report to their local Archicad support.

I certainly will be reporting it (again).

Reference back to this post as an example.

Barry.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Liamthanks — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:56:23 GMT

Hi David,

I could possibly try to squeeze both 24 and 26 onto the same screen and snap it one go. Would that provide any more information for you?

EDIT: I went ahead and did it anyway. Definitely noticeable side-by-side

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Liamthanks — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:55:41 GMT

Hey Barry,

As a reference, I have done the same thing - both images on the same screen. Definitely noticeable.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:21:02 GMT

The text is definitely moving - even if only by a little bit.

You can see here by the grey section line in the background.

And this is just Arial Narrow - nothing fancy.

And the font is jaggier in 26 even with 2D anti-aliassing on.

Barry,

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

David Shorter — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 11:10:00 GMT

@Liamthanks

Thanks for testing. Developers seem to have 'improved' something. I guess its a bug

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Mahalath — Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:25:51 GMT

Have also just upgraded to 26 - My fonts are OK but everything on the master layout is red - how do I fix this please?

Thanks

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Barry Kelly — Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:33:23 GMT

That is an option in your Work Environment settings.

Barry.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Mahalath — Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:36:36 GMT

Too easy - thankyou!

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Barry Kelly — Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:56:02 GMT

There was an interesting post from @Bernhard Binder on the GDC forum.

I hope he doesn't mind me posting it here.

I also do not recommend playing around with Registry values as it affects only that one user on that one machine.

The post was ...

To be precise: Fonts look ugly in AC26 and depending on the font you use the position is offset and size varies compared to AC25. It's an Windows only problem. There is a workaround:

https://graphisoft.atlassian.net/servic ... CBETA-1538

The legacy text engine is still available in Archicad 26 and can be activated by a Registry entry. I do not recommend stepping on this way and warn you that the legacy text engine will be removed in a later version. To activate it, open Registry Editor, navigate to HKCU\Software\GRAPHISOFT\Debug, add a new Key (folder) here with the name TextEngine and add a new DWORD under it with the name useUniscribe and value 1 (see attached image of this). The same can be achieved by opening a Command Prompt with administrator rights and running the following command:

Code: Select all

 REG ADD HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GRAPHISOFT\Debug\TextEngine /v useUniscribe /t REG_DWORD /d 1

This is a per user setting so if you have multiple accounts on a computer working with Archicad, this Registry modification has to be done for all of them. Archicad must be restarted after.

Here is an example of the offset. The green fills indicate the boundary of fonts in AC25, file was opened in AC26. As you can see font Arial is nearly the same, ISOCP is offset nearly by the half of it's height.

Barry.

Re: Fonts displaying incorrectly after moving up to AC26.

Botonis — Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:04:12 GMT

Noted the same thing here: https://community.Graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Strange-Behaviour-of-Text-in-large-zoom-scale-Archicad-26/td-p/353800

And here also. Check the pictures and the video

https://community.Graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Zoom-Problem-Archicad-26/td-p/353795