topic Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation?? in Documentation

What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 17:26:49 GMT

What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Outlines not showing in elevation

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:05:49 GMT

In elevations beams and roofs ae not showing any outline, why would this be??

I have set to elevations settings set to Uniform pen, color fill, non shaded

How do I control the outlines for beams and roof objects?

I have be trying for the last half an hour.

Thanks

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Lingwisyer — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:11:42 GMT

Check your View Style?

View => 3D View Options => 3D Styles => Contours => Show Contours

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 16:00:02 GMT

thanks for the reply. It seems to happening on the building materials level.

Some building materials have an outline , some do not. And yet I cannot see how this determined.

What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:23:01 GMT

As far as I know it’s not a BM outline but an element skin outline which you can change according to the element’s floor plan and section settings via uncut line type & pen color.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:48:00 GMT

Thanks.

It strange because the same element changes just on changing the Bmat to something else. And even when I edit the first BMat that wont show outlines so that it has the same Fill and Surface as a BMat that will show outlines, the first BMat still wont show outlines for the element. And changing the outline settings for the element does nothing.

Its as if the Bmat is bugged.and overrides any element outline pen settings.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 19:27:01 GMT

Have you checked the elevation settings? It has its own settings for uncut line types and pens,

all I said is for floor plan view.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 20:11:28 GMT

I have checked elevation settings, view settings, element settings, fills, materials, surfaces.

I dont know what setting affects element outlines in elevations except the element outline pen, and this is not changing anything in this particular case; Choosing certain building materials turns off an elements outlines in elevation, and I cannot see why this is.

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 20:14:12 GMT

Thanks, but are 3D view styles applicable to Elevations?

I have so far found that the issue is specific to certain Building materials. regardless of all other settings.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 20:21:00 GMT

If you can attach a s screenshot to help us understand your case.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Strawbale23 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 20:49:44 GMT

I ended up remaking the Building materials that were bugged. If I duplicated them they were still bugged , so I remade them from scratch and now they work, with outlines in elevations.

The problem was that with certain building materials , an element would not have any outline at all in elevation and section, regardless of all other settings.

Thank you very much for your help

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 02:05:30 GMT

Check also that you do not have duplicate elements in exactly the same space.

These will look fine in plan but will trim each other away in 3D (section/elevation) and the edge lines will disappear.

I just saw a similar problem in another post just minutes ago.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes-forum/Please-radically-improve-snapping-to-generated-edge-lines-and/td-p/369622

Barry.

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 02:14:06 GMT

I have merged this post and its replies to this thread as they are essentially the same question.

Please try to not duplicate posts.

Barry.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 03:44:36 GMT

As mentioned in the other post I linked to, have you set the vertical limit on in the section/elevation but have the heights set to zero (or the same) for upper and lower limit?

This will result in you being able to see the elements, but not select them by their perimeter.

You can still select them by their fill (Quick Select - magnet).

Barry.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Strawbale23 — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 10:08:10 GMT

Hi Barry, its definitely a Building Materials issue. I spend a lot of time checking everything and it all came down to a select few Building Materials which seemed to be bugged somehow. I rebuilt the Materials from scratch and they work fine now. Its possible that they were Building Materials from someone else's template file that I imported , possibly from a different region version (US). I suspect this might have been the problem.

In the past I have built my project template files off of other peoples template files as a starting point. I think this can cause a lot of issues and I wont be doing it again.

Re: What determines if a building material shows an outline or not in elevation??

Mahmoud Qenawi — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 11:44:35 GMT

Thanks to inform us with the solution to that case which is importing BM via a template relates to a different Archicad local version, perfect.

If you can accept your reply as a solution it’d be helpful.

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Mahmoud Qenawi — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 12:03:38 GMT

Hi Barry,

I see that @Strawbale23‘s topic is prior to @Paul King’s one so there’s no duplication.

I see we can have the same problem with different reasons and approaches we can’t call that a duplication.

Re: Outlines not showing in elevation

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 15:17:45 GMT

@Mahmoud Qenawi wrote:

Hi Barry,

I see that @Strawbale23‘s topic is prior to @Paul King’s one so there’s no duplication.

I see we can have the same problem with different reasons and approaches we can’t call that a duplication.

I said Strawbale's problem seemed similar to Paul's post which I linked to, wondering if that might be the solution.

I then noticed that Strawbale them-self had created two separate posts asking the same thing, which I merged into this post...

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Document-Visualize-forum/What-determines-if-a-building-material-shows-an-outline-or-not/m-p/369434/highlight/true#M55447

Barry.