topic Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views? in Documentation

Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 16 May 2023 23:05:59 GMT

Hi,
My first try with a e57 was a great success. 600 MB point cloud just opened and an .lcf was created. It was really easy and visual to build my virtual building in and around the point cloud. Kudos to GS for a good implementation. I'll be interesting when I get a larger cloud file...
However I cant get the points to show in plans or elevation layouts. Any tricks or use images?

/M

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:07:23 GMT

Check out these clips:

Point Cloud Objects in Sections/Elevation and 3D Document Viewpoints:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4n2QlE9qqU&index=12&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWW2G9Ve7MxoLW2tZ9TWFMW

Point Cloud Objects on Layouts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1GgSVN41o&index=13&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWW2G9Ve7MxoLW2tZ9TWFMW

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Mats_Knutsson — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:55:45 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Check out these clips:

Point Cloud Objects in Sections/Elevation and 3D Document Viewpoints:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4n2QlE9qqU&index=12&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWW2G9Ve7MxoLW2tZ9TWFMW

Point Cloud Objects on Layouts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1GgSVN41o&index=13&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWW2G9Ve7MxoLW2tZ9TWFMW

Thanks! It's a viable way.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2020 14:00:25 GMT

Come on. This is a huge limitation.

Sections and plans of the point cloud MUST be to scale.
Having to manually scale the 3D viewports is NOT a satisfactory workaround!

Even Revit can print point cloud views directly, albeit rasterised.

Archicad needs to implement printing point clouds directly, as vector or raster.
Alternatively / additionally we need to be able to layout 3D viewports to scale effectively.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 12 May 2020 22:47:51 GMT

You can make a wish for this feature, we can vote on it and if it gets enough support, we can submit it to GRAPHISOFT for consideration.
If you do make a wish, please post its link in this thread.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:32:38 GMT

I would vote for this feature. How do I vote? I work on renovation jobs, and we have recently brought 3D scanning into our workflow. I recently saw the video linked below, and have been trying to figure out how to accomplish the workflow shown here in Archicad. If only we could view point clouds in layouts, we could use sections of the point cloud as the as-built drawings, thus obviating the scan-BIM process. This would greatly reduce work while at the same time increasing the accuracy of as-built drawings.
https://www.autodesk.com/autodesk-university/class/Reducing-Waste-Through-Reality-Capture-Utilizing-Scan-Data-Not-Scan-BIM-2016#video

LaszloNagy wrote:
You can make a wish for this feature, we can vote on it and if it gets enough support, we can submit it to GRAPHISOFT for consideration.
If you do make a wish, please post its link in this thread.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Barry Kelly — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 04:06:29 GMT

Sam3 wrote:
I would vote for this feature. How do I vote?

Go to the wishes section and search for a post relating to this subject.
I just did a quick search but didn't see anything related.
So create your own wish there - probably best in the 'Documentation Wishes' section.

Don't forget to add a poll so you and others can vote.
And ideally come back here and post a link to that wish, so others reading this post can find it easily without searching.

So if you feel strongly enough about this, create a post and see what sort of support you get.
It is a little bit of an effort, but unless someone does it, you will never know how important this subject is for others.

Barry.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:18:23 GMT

I have created a post under "Documentation Wishes" with a poll attached so that you can show your support for (or opposition to) this item.
Please vote here: https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=69987

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 01:26:36 GMT

Sam3 wrote:
I have created a post under "Documentation Wishes" with a poll attached so that you can show your support for (or opposition to) this item.
Please vote here: https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=69987

Thank you for doing that.

Barry.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 01:47:29 GMT

Thank you so much for suggesting it!

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:56:22 GMT

I edited the poll to match the other posts on the Documentation Wishes page:

https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=69987

Please vote if this is important to you! I really want to adopt this workflow, as it would save time, reduce errors, etc., etc., but not having point clouds visible in scaled layouts makes it difficult if not impossible to do this in Archicad right now.

Re: Getting the point cloud visible in published 2D views?

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:10:44 GMT

Wow, thank you very much Sam3 for picking up the torch and creating the poll! I've made sure to vote.

Just for posterity, my workaround has been to export raster image slices of the point cloud using CloudCompare and importing these images into ArchiCAD. It's annoying and time-consuming but what else can you do (other than switch back to Revit...)

At least you can save your sliced views effectively in CloudCompare. Now there's a fantastic program!