topic Re: Slow Performance in Layouts in Documentation

Slow Performance in Layouts

jameshart — Fri, 26 May 2023 14:35:27 GMT

Hi!

We are currently working on a large project with 7 buildings. Buildings are each modeled in separate teamwork files, and all views (floor plans, elevations, everything) are linked into a master document file. The Document File does not contain any 3D model geometry, only layouts, 17 independent details, and a couple of legends (independent worksheets.)

Most of the time this setup works nicely, however some days the document file suffers from really slow performance. On a slow performance day, immediately after every editing operation (paste, rotate, drag, change properties, etc) we see the spinning wheel for 3-6 seconds, which is not long but is certainly irritating after EVERY thing we try to do.

Today, while the Documents file was going slow, I checked ArchiCAD’s memory usage using Activity Monitor. I noticed that the Document File ArchiCAD was using 8GB of RAM while the two Building File ArchiCADs were using 403.6MB and 1.04GB. (This computer has 16GB installed.)

Does anyone have any ideas for speeding things up in the Document File? I’d really like to avoid splitting the document file up if possible.

I have already tried:
• Restarting ArchiCAD.
• Adjusting my 2D Graphic Hardware Acceleration (tried both off and full).
• Turning off Vectorial Hatching in the On-Screen Display Options.

Thanks in advance!

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 21:18:22 GMT

Just a hunch, but have you tried changing your auto save settings to maybe every 5 min instead of after every step. if you see the little bulldozer coming up at the bottom of the screen during that 3-6sec delay, that will be your problem. I have had the same issue with split projects that was fixed by doing this

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

jameshart — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 21:58:33 GMT

Steve wrote:
Just a hunch, but have you tried changing your auto save settings to maybe every 5 min instead of after every step. if you see the little bulldozer coming up at the bottom of the screen during that 3-6sec delay, that will be your problem. I have had the same issue with split projects that was fixed by doing this

Changing from "Ultra Safe" to "Safe" provided instant relief! Thanks Steve, you rock!

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:01:22 GMT

Glad it worked

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Matija Kuzman — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:37:09 GMT

Hi!
I have the same problem, I am working on small projects - individual houses, files are small, my computer is strong (32gb ram, 16 core processor, strong graphics..). I have no problems working on the project, only when I get to the layouts it starts to lag like crazy. It happens to all of my projects.
I have changed autosave to 5 min, doesnt really help.
What can I do, please help.

Thank you!
Matija

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:56:39 GMT

Matija wrote:
Hi!
I have the same problem, I am working on small projects - individual houses, files are small, my computer is strong (32gb ram, 16 core processor, strong graphics..). I have no problems working on the project, only when I get to the layouts it starts to lag like crazy. It happens to all of my projects.
I have changed autosave to 5 min, doesnt really help.
What can I do, please help.

Thank you!
Matija

Hi Matija,

Thank you very much for the question and I am very sorry for the experience!
We have created a Help Center article regarding how to optimize your project performance: https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/86882/

If the suggestions here don't help, I would like to ask for the file for further investigation. Please let me know if you need a secure place to upload the file!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Matija Kuzman — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 09:00:00 GMT

I would be happy to send you one of my files, to see if you would have the same problem.

How can we do it?

Sincerely, Matija

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Minh Nguyen — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 12:02:16 GMT

Dear Matija,

Thank you for your reply! I will send you a special link in Private Message, with which you can upload the file directly to our server.

Please let me know when it is ready!

Best regards,

Minh

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

tecto — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:46:08 GMT

I have the exact same problem: good performance working on the project and unbearable lags while working on the layouts. Did you find any solution to fix this?

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Barry Kelly — Sat, 20 Aug 2022 08:32:35 GMT

What is in your layouts?

Are you linking to views in other files, or are they all links to internal views?

Barry.

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

tecto — Sat, 20 Aug 2022 23:08:40 GMT

In the layouts I have only links to internal views, but it is true that in some of the internal views I also have imported drawings (pdf files that are 3MB)

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Barry Kelly — Mon, 22 Aug 2022 01:10:31 GMT

That could be the problem.

Only way of knowing is to remove the PDFs and see if speed increases.

I don't think the option to 'Store Drawing in the Project File' will do anything, as it will still be looking to that link for an external PDF.

I think that will just make your file size bigger and means that it can still read the PDF even when the external source is not available.

Barry.

Re: Slow Performance in Layouts

Rafael Sangareau — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:40:41 GMT

I believe it's drawing update that causes this, I don't know why. It happened to me just now after I did a full layout book update, it started getting very sluggish navigating thru the layout book after that. If you turn the drawings "On-Screen Preview" to "No Preview" it works fine, you can select them all in the Drawing Manager and change them all at once and then turn on whenever needed. Cheers!

EDIT: So I decided to dig a little bit deeper into this since I'm working on a file with this problem and I thought turning preview off might not be a solution in some situations. This issue intertwines with another problem in drawing update, when you do a Book update, the views get all messed up on display, they are ok when you publish, and they display correctly if you update them with the respective layout on display. This is a very well known issue at the office, I didn't know it also made the navigation slower in some occasions. The culprit view shows up pixelated and when I update it it becomes ok again, and navigation resumes its normal course.

Updating the layouts one by one while having them on display solves this problem, it's painfull. In my case I'm not doing it, I can live with no preview on and I'm not updating 1200 layouts one by one. Cheers!